55-60 HP CHOICES

   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #51  
could be, i always thought empirical was one's personal experience, data collection & scientific sampling is otherwise. regards
Right church, wrong pew
It’s the other way around.
Personal observation is subjective at best and really cannot be relied upon as an informative source.
We do that all the time because it seems to give our species comfort.
“So how do you like that car?, tractor or washing machine”?
 
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #52  
looking at dfn, you are correct, more of a scientific rather than personal subjective method. guess i was subjective myself in my assumption, good day
 
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #53  
looking at dfn, you are correct, more of a scientific rather than personal subjective method. guess i was subjective myself in my assumption, good day
You were honest to be objective about your subjective view of your assumption. :geek:
 
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #54  
For a speed queen washer or dryer I don't believe you can
go wrong made in Ripon since 1908 and when you go into a laundermat you will 9 times out of 10 washer and dryers are
speed queen


willy
 
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #55  
For a speed queen washer or dryer I don't believe you can
go wrong made in Ripon since 1908.
You may believe that. But I don’t believe nothing can go wrong. There’s ppl all over the internet crying about their $4 and $5000 Speed Queen sets.
Once you start adding convenience electronics, anything can go wrong. Buy the simplest washer and dryer you can find.
Actually, I feel the same way about tractors.

You do bring up the point of anecdotal vs empirical evidence.
4 out of 5 dentists recommend Crest. Hmm, why isn’t the 5th doing so?
 
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES
  • Thread Starter
#56  
Thanks for all the responses. Still on the fence, not in any rush so will continue to look.
 
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #57  
For a speed queen washer or dryer I don't believe you can
go wrong made in Ripon since 1908 and when you go into a laundermat you will 9 times out of 10 washer and dryers are
speed queen


willy
They are simply the best. Even their residential machines say commercial grade on them. And they offer a choice of a simple mechanical dial machine or digital. If you look at the motor drive for the drum, the gears and part are all metal, no nylon parts like many other brands.
 
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #58  
Thanks for all the responses. Still on the fence, not in any rush so will continue to look.
There are moments in man’s life when he glimpses…eternal.
Just try not to fall into the paralysis by analysis thing.
Seldom do we find the perfect fit so attempt to rely on the one criteria for continuation of all things living: adaptation
Cheez…I sound like Father Tractor…
 
Last edited:
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #59  
I am also looking at tractors, but in the 45 to 60 HP range. My issue is the same a stated, but I also need to maximize loader lifting capacity. I only have 26 acres in the Pacific NW, mostly with very little slope (maybe <1%), but on the edges can be up to 30%, so looking at offset frail mower. Need to clear trees I (old lumber tree farm) and many blackberry vines (one bush killed a 20 foot tall tree by encasing the tree with vines).

Currently have a Kubota B2910 (~30 hp), but quality of engineering and workmanship keep me from looking at that manufacturer. Maybe just my machine and model, but with less than 1000 hours on the clock, I spend more time repairing than using. Kubota was contacted and just did not care. So the front wheel fell off in little over a year because it was not welded properly (less than 60% around axle shaft), what do you want us to do? But this again is a different story.

I wonder about the long term reliability of the Korean tractors. Anyone out there with older units that can give some input?

As for financing, you must keep in mind that there is a "future value" for money. And any investment that has a track history of 10% return can offer a negative 10% return the next year. It is all a gamble, but sometimes it is more cost effective to pay cash or finance for the maximum term limit. How lucky do you feel.

I worked for a company who's stock price rose and split several time, with no marketable product (Pharmaceutical) and continued with release of it's first product. When its second product, the sales beat all previous industry records, but the stock market did not think it was enough, it dropped to about 1/4 of its previous value. I learned quickly that the stock market goes up with rumor, falls with facts.
 
   / 55-60 HP CHOICES #60  
I am also looking at tractors, but in the 45 to 60 HP range. My issue is the same a stated, but I also need to maximize loader lifting capacity. I only have 26 acres in the Pacific NW, mostly with very little slope (maybe <1%), but on the edges can be up to 30%, so looking at offset frail mower. Need to clear trees I (old lumber tree farm) and many blackberry vines (one bush killed a 20 foot tall tree by encasing the tree with vines).

Currently have a Kubota B2910 (~30 hp), but quality of engineering and workmanship keep me from looking at that manufacturer. Maybe just my machine and model, but with less than 1000 hours on the clock, I spend more time repairing than using. Kubota was contacted and just did not care. So the front wheel fell off in little over a year because it was not welded properly (less than 60% around axle shaft), what do you want us to do? But this again is a different story.

I wonder about the long term reliability of the Korean tractors. Anyone out there with older units that can give some input?

As for financing, you must keep in mind that there is a "future value" for money. And any investment that has a track history of 10% return can offer a negative 10% return the next year. It is all a gamble, but sometimes it is more cost effective to pay cash or finance for the maximum term limit. How lucky do you feel.

I worked for a company who's stock price rose and split several time, with no marketable product (Pharmaceutical) and continued with release of it's first product. When its second product, the sales beat all previous industry records, but the stock market did not think it was enough, it dropped to about 1/4 of its previous value. I learned quickly that the stock market goes up with rumor, falls with facts.
Seldom can you rely on tractor heresay. It falls both ways for all brands. Those things are “rumors”.
Being in the tractor business, I would say it is the least reliable marker for purchase criteria as it can only remain subjective.
Objective choice criteria is more akin to dealer closeness, dealer quality, dealer longevity and how do you fit ergonomically on the machine and lastly if the machine answers to your usage needs.
Those elements are more important than brand by a long shot.
You cannot tell the future so why rely on.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

71064 (A49346)
71064 (A49346)
2019 HONDA PIONEER 5 1000 UTV (A50459)
2019 HONDA PIONEER...
BUSH HOG 32601 - 6' ROTARY MOWER (A51243)
BUSH HOG 32601 -...
2008 Ford F-250 Pickup Truck (A50323)
2008 Ford F-250...
2014 Nissan Frontier Pickup Truck (A50323)
2014 Nissan...
2018 FORD F-150 (A50854)
2018 FORD F-150...
 
Top