499 haybine??

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ZekeIH4210

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Question for anyone out there and I can’t seem to find it online. I am new to using a 499 haybine just had a sickle cutter before but ran a1411 discbine when I still lived on the family farm.
Question is are the 2 cutting bars independent or do they get bolted together in the middle? Ran fine for 40 acres now it’s making a banging sound and the only thing I found so far is where the 2 bars meet they are not bolted together, but I don’t see any bolts missing either? Please help
 
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My 489 had one solid cutting bar that went from one side to the other. Perhaps your bar broke in two and that's the banging noise?
 
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My 489 had one solid cutting bar that went from one side to the other. Perhaps your bar broke in two and that's the banging noise?
I know there is special bolts, nuts, and guards for the middle cause the auction I bought it at the farmer threw in a box of parts just for the middle of the haybine, but it’s hard to troubleshoot the noise on a hydraulic pump drive system on a 479 I would just turn the teeth arm by hand that doesn’t work on the 499.
 
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check each sickle bushing. One may be going on vacation.
 
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The Sickle Bars go opposite direction to reduce vibration, In/In, Out/Out

So yes a Bushing, or Guard Alignment where they meet in the middle.
 
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The Sickle Bars go opposite direction to reduce vibration, In/In, Out/Out

So yes a Bushing, or Guard Alignment where they meet in the middle.
Do they also get bolted together in the middle? I checked bushings, I also replaced 2 guards that were a little bit bent but still have the noise and were the two cutting bars meet they move a lot
 
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The Sickle Bars go opposite direction to reduce vibration, In/In, Out/Out

So yes a Bushing, or Guard Alignment where they meet in the middle.
Alright I will definitely double check all of those but is there anything that connects the two bars together? A shim that bolts the 2 bars together or something?
 
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No they reciprocate, but if I remember correctly the center sections and guards are special units for the overlap

These things were New when I was working on them back in the 80's
 
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So sorry I didn’t get back on here right away. I broke my left ankle and foot and didn’t get back to the noise right away. Anyway one noise a loose guard in the middle section where the 2 bars overlap and the second noise I found was a roller starting to loose some rubber
 

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