4720 goes a hayin'
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I run a NH1012 (Automatic single bale unload as well as stack retrieve) with a 35hp JD. Tongue weight is pretty high, but it takes hardly any power to run it. It's rated for 56 bales but I carry 64 back to the barn. That's a full stack + 8 more on the front table.
Here is a website with the specs. on NH balewagons:
Roeder Implement,
It may help with someones search on sizing & HP ratings.
Roeder Implement,
It may help with someones search on sizing & HP ratings.
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Do you ever have problems with your elevator "dropping" bales and having them slide back down to the ground?
We unloaded hay at a neighbor's house recently ans she had that style elevator. About 1/20 of the bales would slide back down the elevator and have to be reset on it.
Aaron Z
We unloaded hay at a neighbor's house recently ans she had that style elevator. About 1/20 of the bales would slide back down the elevator and have to be reset on it.
Aaron Z
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CCL
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Thanks Double6 - Kansas h'aint too far away...
zzvby6, dmay & all: Please help me understand - I have a field covered with random bales on the ground. I hook up the baler wagon, swoop down on each bale, the wagon grabs it and arranges it on the table, then tips the filled table up to form the ordered stack on the wagon. Then I drive to the shed and dump 50-odd bales in one stack.... no touching the bales till I need to move to the loft of to some other covered location. Is that right?????
zzvby6, dmay & all: Please help me understand - I have a field covered with random bales on the ground. I hook up the baler wagon, swoop down on each bale, the wagon grabs it and arranges it on the table, then tips the filled table up to form the ordered stack on the wagon. Then I drive to the shed and dump 50-odd bales in one stack.... no touching the bales till I need to move to the loft of to some other covered location. Is that right?????
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Never have em slide down - can't have the slope too high or they'll tip over backward. Sometimes they'll fall off to the side if they bunch up at the top. The chain dogs grab pretty firmly - I'll lose a wrap once in a while if they pile up at the top and the chain hits the twine. Oh - and don't stick your foot under the moving chain - the dogs grab boot toes just like a bale and toes lose every time.
For the NH Stacker wagons, your understanding is correct. There are different models, though with features you might consider. I have the self unload, single bale at a time option (but don't use it). There are larger wagons with higher capacity and even some self propelled ones having a simple cab and front drive axle.
The only thing to change in your current operation is called a 1/4 turn chute on the baler which puts the bales on the ground with the cut side up (narrow side up) This is necessary to accomodate the ground pickup chute on the stacker. Not sure how you would want to integrate it into your baler having the kicker pan in place.
I can show you some pix of my deal if you are interested. Actually they are already on the TBN forum in a year old thread there somewhere in cyberspace.
If you are doing a couple of hundred or so bales a night to have fun, produce hay for your own animals, sell it to neighbors, etc. and are short of help, this system works very well. I usually drop off 2 loads or so from the stacker at my neighbor's barns for their own horses. This means I don't have to load it into my barn. They have to deal with it in their barn.
BTW, if you are having trouble with bales tumbling back down the elevator, the angle is too steep. If that's fixed by the barn story height, you can take out every other chain cleat to help keep the chain contact flat. This means learning how to break such a chain open, remove the cleat link, and put it all back together. Not impossible, but troubling for some, easy for others. There's even a special tool made to make the chain separation easier.
If your hay mow is large and long, you could consider getting a mow elevator. This is a horizontal equivalent of the lift elevator except the motor is bidirectional. It will unload the barn, too. I have dump stations in mine. That means I can control where in the mow the bales go by pulling the diverter control ropes from the ground level. These diverters toss the bales off thto the side at the diverter station in the mow. This especially handy when you get some help and the the lift elevator is packed full and the bales are coming up so fast a person in the barn (i.e. ME) can't keep up. You just dump piles at each station and deal with it later.
The only thing to change in your current operation is called a 1/4 turn chute on the baler which puts the bales on the ground with the cut side up (narrow side up) This is necessary to accomodate the ground pickup chute on the stacker. Not sure how you would want to integrate it into your baler having the kicker pan in place.
I can show you some pix of my deal if you are interested. Actually they are already on the TBN forum in a year old thread there somewhere in cyberspace.
If you are doing a couple of hundred or so bales a night to have fun, produce hay for your own animals, sell it to neighbors, etc. and are short of help, this system works very well. I usually drop off 2 loads or so from the stacker at my neighbor's barns for their own horses. This means I don't have to load it into my barn. They have to deal with it in their barn.
BTW, if you are having trouble with bales tumbling back down the elevator, the angle is too steep. If that's fixed by the barn story height, you can take out every other chain cleat to help keep the chain contact flat. This means learning how to break such a chain open, remove the cleat link, and put it all back together. Not impossible, but troubling for some, easy for others. There's even a special tool made to make the chain separation easier.
If your hay mow is large and long, you could consider getting a mow elevator. This is a horizontal equivalent of the lift elevator except the motor is bidirectional. It will unload the barn, too. I have dump stations in mine. That means I can control where in the mow the bales go by pulling the diverter control ropes from the ground level. These diverters toss the bales off thto the side at the diverter station in the mow. This especially handy when you get some help and the the lift elevator is packed full and the bales are coming up so fast a person in the barn (i.e. ME) can't keep up. You just dump piles at each station and deal with it later.
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Take a look. Here is a good video showing the entire haying process. The end of the video shows a NH bale wagon in operation. Note this shows a large wagon model, not the smaller 55 bale model recommended for you. Same functions, just bigger creating 3 bale wide stack where smaller creates 2 bale wide stack.
YouTube - Farm Life - Summer in the Hay Fields
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At 3:25 or so, it shows them baling hay. Is he going too fast for that baler? I thought that you were supposed to match your ground speed to the speed of the tines on the baler pickup. That way, the hay is lifted up as one long mat, not as a matted pile of hay.
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dmay
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Agreed. The entire video looks to have every haying phase running faster then normal operating speed. Must just be a video production issue. The two items I thought this video showed well was how the 1/4 turn baler chute works and how the bale wagon works in general.
