Egon
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This looks like an opportunity to start advertising "Farm Experience Holidays" with a rate that changes with the number of bales stacked.:thumbsup:
4720 goes a hayin'
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This looks like an opportunity to start advertising "Farm Experience Holidays" with a rate that changes with the number of bales stacked.:thumbsup:
dmay
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I would think that depends on the flatness of your land, the overall size of the wagon and how many bales you load. If your land is not hilly and you get or build a wagon to stack ~50 bales at a time, things should work just fine.
That is why I recommended you take a look at a used pull type NH1002 bale wagon. It picks and stacks 55 bales. I used this with a '73 Massey 265 (65 hp). It will make your small bale haying experience a lot less painful on your back.
OP
CCL
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I got an 8-ton running gear and the pieces to start on a second wagon, but the hill thing is an issue for me. I've been in the situation with the dump trailer pushing me downhill, and it's no fun
I'd also have to take the kicker off the 337 to get a chute to feed the wagon - I want to do that anyway once we have the new shed to store the ejector out of the weather.I like the idea of a small automatic bale wagon like you suggest - 50 bales or would be about the limit of what I'd consider behind the baler at any time. What about accumulators? Sounds like a whole 'nother thread to revisit....
We used a wd45 allis on baling hay. It had less HP then your JD. We had a NH baler with bale thrower and wagons that would hold 120 to 150 bales on it. We also had some hill issues, when wagon was empty, we hit the hill sides. I know we was short on HP with the allis, but it did what was demanded of it. And there is no more fun then sweating profusely, getting scratched up by the hay stubble, having sore fingers, sore back, and working on a holiday when others are out having fun!!!!:confused2:
dmay
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A NH1002 is not pulled behind the baler. It is tractor pulled. So you have four haying steps. Cut, bale, pick, stack. The NH1002 picks a bale up from the ground, loads them onto a table, table is full with 8 bales, then the table lifts the row into the wagon. Each row is 8 bales except the fifth tie row which is 7 bales. Total 55 bales and wagon is full. Return to hay shed and wagon tilts back to unload bales in a stack, 7 rows high. Might be hard to visualize but the process removes the manual lifting/stacking involved.
Due to your hills, an accumulator and matching FEL bale grab might be a good choice. Steps would become cut, bale/accumulate, grab & load trailer, grab & unload trailer.
Tunguska
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Ain't that the truth!
This brings back memories. When I was a kid, the elderly widow down the road would hire 4 or 5 or us teenagers to put up hay at $1 an hour. Hard work, (especially up in the loft) but we were on top of the world. No shirts, getting tanned and working on our muscles.
For some reason, the local girls seemed to orbit the operation as well.
Everyone got a big farm lunch and all the cold iced tea you could drink. We switched out driving her old 2 cylinder B pulling the wagon for a break.
There's been nothing since quite like walking home at 16 in the summer twilight with a $10 bill and a pretty girl's phone number in your pocket.
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Ain't that the truth!
This brings back memories. When I was a kid, the elderly widow down the road would hire 4 or 5 or us teenagers to put up hay at $1 an hour. Hard work, (especially up in the loft) but we were on top of the world. No shirts, getting tanned and working on our muscles.
For some reason, the local girls seemed to orbit the operation as well.
Everyone got a big farm lunch and all the cold iced tea you could drink. We switched out driving her old 2 cylinder B pulling the wagon for a break.
There's been nothing since quite like walking home at 16 in the summer twilight with a $10 bill and a pretty girl's phone number in your pocket.
Good God, I wish I was raised in your area! Only thing that would see the brothers and my self was Holstein cows!!:laughing:
Tunguska
Member
Yeah, just as the suburban boom was beginning.
Now, most of the farms have been turned into McMansions as the kids play video games, soccer and spend their allowance at the mall.
The few remaining operations are almost exclusively using round bales. You can't blame them, I guess, since OSHA and the trial lawyers would bankrupt them if a kid got caught in an elevator or had his foot run over or something.
Progress, I guess.
Now, most of the farms have been turned into McMansions as the kids play video games, soccer and spend their allowance at the mall.
The few remaining operations are almost exclusively using round bales. You can't blame them, I guess, since OSHA and the trial lawyers would bankrupt them if a kid got caught in an elevator or had his foot run over or something.
Progress, I guess.
OP
CCL
Member
So... I looked at the NH website - does the NH1002 work like the NH1037, but smaller (1037 lists @ ~100 bales)? And you run your 1002 with ~65 hp - the 4720 should be able to do that, and by late August we'll have lots more room under roof for unloaded stacks. I'm liking this idea more.....
OP
CCL
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Like the image you paint!
