4035 sloppy loader joy stick

ktoom · Jun 27, 2015

Hey guys, just looking to see if anyone else has a sloppy loader joy stick? My tractor is new with only 50hrs. Had this issue since it was new. I Had a service guy from my dealer out to my house last week for a warranty thing. I asked him about the joy stick issue. He says they are all like this and that there isnt anything they can do to make it tighter.

I have since examined it and didnt see anything that i could tighten up in the joy stick assembly.

Its not the end of the world with the sloppy joy stick as my jd300 backhoe has huge slop in the levers lol. I just dont like it cuz its hard to be presise and smooth when the actuation points are so far away.

Have any of you guys had this issue and found a solution?

Sysop · Jun 27, 2015

I've often found it to have more travel before performing functions than desired as well, although it doesn't seem to affect my precision any, only my speed when being precise because so much time is taken feathering through the free travel of the joystick. I've found that higher RPMs help. The audible cues stand out more (the higher pressures make more noise as the valve begins to divert the flow to perform a function), and the range of feathering is smoother.

There is an adjuster on the cables from the control, where it connects to the valve. The manual doesn't state any adjustment procedures, but I'm sure you would just take all the slack out of the cables as is possible so they operate the spools with as little play as possible.

ktoom · Jun 27, 2015

I tried adjusting both those spots and it did nothing for the cable slack.

When adjusting the 2 tubes, all it would do is just bring he lever further forward or back. It had the same affect for the side to side motion as well.

Yes there will always be play in the lever mechanism, but the additional inch of play in the cable shouldn't be there.

Sysop · Jun 27, 2015

That's unfortunate. I doubt there is any sort of modification that would be done easily. I've just practiced my way around it and have became fairly efficient with it. I'm at a bit over 300 hours with much of it being loader work.

ktoom · Jun 27, 2015

Yea its weird how you can't get the slack out of the cable.

The only thing left to do is try to disassemble the joy stick and see if washers or something could be added to where the cables slide into the joy stick body.

RedFirstGen · Jun 27, 2015

Mine was the same way. Now I have 700 hrs on my tractor. (Not sure how many on the loader as I bought the tractor used). The left right on my loader handle finally went belly up. They put a new cables on mine and I can't believe the difference. It is most definitely not sloppy now. Of course, at only 50 hrs it shouldn't be that way either.

Navasot · Jun 29, 2015

there are two speeds on your loader joystick.. adjust them with the collar below the handle.

Navasot · Jun 29, 2015

should explain it in the manual

ktoom · Jun 30, 2015

Navasot said:
there are two speeds on your loader joystick.. adjust them with the collar below the handle.

Ive red this before on the forum. When i get home i will take a look in the manual. I thought i looked once already for this setting, but found nothing. Also, when i took the rubber boot off the joy stick, i didnt see anywhere that adjusting that nob, would have an affect on the loader operation other than being pushed down to lock the joy stick from being used. Maybe im missing something?

RedFirstGen · Jun 30, 2015

I don't know of any adjustment of speed either. Far as I can tell all that ring does is lock the loader.

davrow · Jul 1, 2015

Sounds like two speeds... on and off. :laughing:

Sysop · Jul 1, 2015

Correct, it is to lock the joystick handle to prevent it accidently being operated when you don't want it to be (such as when the loader is removed).

AchingBack · Jul 1, 2015

Navasot said:
should explain it in the manual

Don't you sell these tractors? If so, don't you have a manual for the 4035? Where does it mention two speeds on a joystick, what page?

Would it be in the owners/operators manual or are you referring to a shop repair manual? One thing I know for sure, the Mahindra USA owners 24/7 page has been absolutely useless, worthless, and puts a bad taste in some mouths. I agree with what you've said before about going to your dealer for all of the info you need. However, some folks just don't have a dealer who is capable of helping.

Perhaps the answer here as to the cure for a floppy joy stick would best be answered by the manufacturer. If it were up to me, I would have already been on the phone with whomever at whatever company made the equipment.

Sysop · Jul 1, 2015

It isn't in the tractor manual, it is in the manual to the loader; I looked. As described above, it is to lock the loader control only. There is no speed control.

Agreed about the 24/7 site. Please post your complaints about it here >> http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/mahindra-owning-operating/339569-mahindra-24-7-website.html

Hopefully if we can get enough people complaining they will get on the ball...

Navasot · Jul 7, 2015

I did look back over this and wanted to say I was indeed wrong about the settings I misread the book on the regen process and took it as the whole loader operation. I apologize for misleading anyone.

redobbin · May 6, 2018

Sysop said:
I've often found it to have more travel before performing functions than desired as well, although it doesn't seem to affect my precision any, only my speed when being precise because so much time is taken feathering through the free travel of the joystick. I've found that higher RPMs help. The audible cues stand out more (the higher pressures make more noise as the valve begins to divert the flow to perform a function), and the range of feathering is smoother.

There is an adjuster on the cables from the control, where it connects to the valve. The manual doesn't state any adjustment procedures, but I'm sure you would just take all the slack out of the cables as is possible so they operate the spools with as little play as possible.

Can you post the other page referenced in the manual above? Can you provide the name of the manual? I am having excessive play in the joystick and also having the curl function stick (both direction). It would be nice to have some guidance from a manual before I start making any adjustments or taking things apart to check for worn cables, corrosion, and/or shavings in the check valve.

redobbin · May 7, 2018

I found a copy of the ML120 FEL operator, parts, installation manual. I think I have what I need. Looking at tackling this on the weekend. Tired of the slop and the sticking curl.