3pt Stabilizers

   / 3pt Stabilizers #21  
Stay bar pins have to be in alignment with the lift arm pins or things will bend or break when the lift arms are raised. Most implements need about 2” total side to side movement to prevent damage. Ground engagement implements such as moldboard plows need to have as much side to side movement as possible without the lift arms engaging the tires. Non-ground engagement equipment can have as little as 2 inches.
Check your operator instruction book.
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers
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#22  
Thanks Jerry - the LS operators manual leaves a bit to be desired in many aspects. This is one of them!
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #23  
Agreed. Very vague and not completely understandable.

Eugene

Thanks Jerry - the LS operators manual leaves a bit to be desired in many aspects. This is one of them!
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #24  
Don't understand tractor salesmen anymore. There are a lot of blanks they could fill in but don't.
Glad to help. Good luck.
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #25  
I went by an LS dealer and looked over the other models very carefully. I found that my xr4046hc had the weakest setup of them all. right next to it was a 5065 and it had a strong screw type setup that could be set very rigid and still move up and down. it could be adjusted and then pinned to stay where it was set at. 20140525_121414.jpg20140525_121300.jpg
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #26  
Thanks for the XR picture. That confrims they did make some changes from the R to XR series. The ball joint on the tractor side being the biggest one. The male part also looks to be shaped differently. Anyone bent the XR stabilizers yet?
 
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#27  
Looks like the XR4046 is the same setup my R3039 has.
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #28  
If there is zero play, any decent side load will bend them. If there is too much play the implement can get a running start before everything stops, and bends.

Or during movement thru the lifting arc -on some tractors the distance and therefore tightness changes for the turn buckles and in some cases amounts to using the tractors rockshaft to hydraulically bend / break the turnbuckles
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #29  
just ading to sd455dan, worst case you can shear or break a bolt on the stay bar mounting bracket .
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #30  
Whispering Oaks, doesn't that look like a CAT II hitch?
tom
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #31  
it probably was, but the design was so much better. mine has so much slop on both ends and it is new. you can't get a connection without a lot of side to side free play.
Whispering Oaks, doesn't that look like a CAT II hitch?
tom
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #32  
it probably was, but the design was so much better. mine has so much slop on both ends and it is new. you can't get a connection without a lot of side to side free play.

I know this may sound dumb, but one thing I realized after wrestling with mine quite a bit, was that if you simply push the implement to one side, and try to set the pin, it will still be loose. The part of the stabilizer that attaches to the tractor will pivot, rather than go deeper into the stabilizer and take up slack. As soon as I started making sure to hold that part of the stabilizer, I was able to get things tightened up quite a bit.
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #33  
I have read this thread with great interest. But, I have not seen a definitive answer on the right way to hook an implement to a 3pt hitch.

My R3039H is the first tractor I've owned with a 3pt hitch. I've just been using my mechanical instinct to hook my implements up! So far, so good.

What I'm thinking here is some where in the past when 3pt hitches became common place, there was a correct way to set everything up. And, the instructions were in a manual. Why does this not exist anymore? My owners manual guidance is cryptic in this regard.

So far I've not bent anything. I make sure each telescopic link is of equal length with the implement centered to the tractor. There is some side to side play detectible, but I figure some play is good to allow for the inevitable side contact, especially with the rotary cutter length. Ground engaging implements are lifted before turns made.
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #34  
After reading this thread, it got me curious. Mine hade a couple inches of sway, also. I unhooked my BB, adjusted my sway bars, then hooked up. Hardly any side to side movement at all. My implements are the quick attach type, so I just slide the pins in. Don't have to spread the 3 point arms to get on hitch pins.
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #35  
I have read this thread with great interest. But, I have not seen a definitive answer on the right way to hook an implement to a 3pt hitch.

My R3039H is the first tractor I've owned with a 3pt hitch. I've just been using my mechanical instinct to hook my implements up! So far, so good.

What I'm thinking here is some where in the past when 3pt hitches became common place, there was a correct way to set everything up. And, the instructions were in a manual. Why does this not exist anymore? My owners manual guidance is cryptic in this regard.

So far I've not bent anything. I make sure each telescopic link is of equal length with the implement centered to the tractor. There is some side to side play detectible, but I figure some play is good to allow for the inevitable side contact, especially with the rotary cutter length. Ground engaging implements are lifted before turns made.

I'm not sure why it's not in the manual either, but you're adjusting it the correct way. :thumbsup:
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #36  
I have read this thread with great interest. But, I have not seen a definitive answer on the right way to hook an implement to a 3pt hitch.

My R3039H is the first tractor I've owned with a 3pt hitch. I've just been using my mechanical instinct to hook my implements up!

Maybe that should be a new thread! You have HST so I'll probably tell you the wrong way. . .

  • Back tractor up to within a foot of implement.
  • Set brake lightly. Set throttle to high idle.
  • Extend lower links. Set stabilizer pins so they're close to width of implement.
  • Stand on right side of tractor and tap reverse pedal with fist to back tractor up until pins align with links.
  • Hook up pins.
  • Go back to right side of tractor and tap pedal hard a couple times to retract telescoping lower links.
  • Attach top link. Raise implement slightly.
  • Set stabilizer pins by compressing the stabilizer from each end. Use three hands if necessary.
  • Lower implement onto a rock or something to unload the weight.
  • Set length of top link and right side lower link height.
  • Tighten everything up and you're good to go.

I imagine some part of that process is wrong and dangerous.

I can't imagine how those people with their luxurious cabs and gear trannies get anything done quickly.

Bob
 
   / 3pt Stabilizers #37  
Maybe that should be a new thread! You have HST so I'll probably tell you the wrong way. . .

  • Back tractor up to within a foot of implement.
  • Set brake lightly. Set throttle to high idle.
  • Extend lower links. Set stabilizer pins so they're close to width of implement.
  • Stand on right side of tractor and tap reverse pedal with fist to back tractor up until pins align with links.
  • Hook up pins.
  • Go back to right side of tractor and tap pedal hard a couple times to retract telescoping lower links.
  • Attach top link. Raise implement slightly.
  • Set stabilizer pins by compressing the stabilizer from each end. Use three hands if necessary.
  • Lower implement onto a rock or something to unload the weight.
  • Set length of top link and right side lower link height.
  • Tighten everything up and you're good to go.

I imagine some part of that process is wrong and dangerous.

I can't imagine how those people with their luxurious cabs and gear trannies get anything done quickly.

Bob

You better hide Bob, the safety police will be comming after you!!!!! :laughing::D ;) :laughing:
 

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