3215 hydraulic connections?

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MrChris

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Was looking under my 3215 seat yesterday on the right side and was wondering if these connections are hydraulic? There are two connections. Couldn't get a real good picture of the second port. Looks exactly like the one you can see though. I added arrows for clarity. Thanks.
 

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Looking at a parts manual, it appears a sub valve kit is added here. This allows addition of a single remote handle which comes up through the slot next to the 3 pt hitch lever to control more than likely a hydraulic top link.:thumbsup: Expensive though. Looks like it's over $1000.:(
 
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Here's a pic. Part#1
 

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Gday there MrChris

Going through a similar thing right now, just found these myself and trying to figure out if I can tap straight into them to add a rear remote or two. Whats got me thinking though, is do we need to find a third outlet point like the 3PL has? The two you have identified are marked P and N, which only leaves T which is the return line according to my FEL manual.

You come up with any more updates/ideas since this thread started??
 
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I've decided to go with the OEM sub valve kit. I just really like how the whole system is integrated into the tractor. Very clean looking install. I was able to get a kit price of $645. Still expensive for a single spool system, I know. I'll be working on the install this week and let you know how it goes.
 
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Wow thats a lot cheaper than the $1500 I just got quoted! Any chance you could post some pics of the connections into the diff housing once you're done ? That would be really helpful. Cheers
 
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Took some pics of the project. Pretty straight forward install. Kit came with good step by step directions with pictures. Most of my time was spent cleaning out three threaded holes in the 3 pt side housing to mount the remote block and the bracket for the remote control arm. Gotta love the dirt daubers here in the South. They fill every hole up with dirt.:laughing: You can see some of what I mean in the initial thread pics I posted. You basically remove 3 bolts and the outside cover (The outer part that has the top plug visible in my initial thread photo) to access the 3 hydraulic ports. The block then attaches in the covers place and the remote spool connects to the block. A new cover goes on the outside of the spool. Two hydraulic hoses connect on the bottom of the spool and go to the Quick connects in the rear. I like how the hoses have wire spooling on them for protection. The new spool control arm is right next to the 3pt control arm on the right fender. The new spool does have a float setting as well.:) Sorry I couldn't get better pics of where the spool mounts, pretty tight area, but the parts diagragm pic really shows how everything assembles.
 

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Thats really neat! Can you tell me where the return line got plumbed into? There are the two large ports on the horizontal, PB and Pressure line in; is the small vertical port just above these the return line??
 

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Okay just thinking about it some more.... I've been thinking I can plumb hoses directly in to these ports.... What your saying is I need to remove that outer large port housing, and then underneath that are three ports to bolt a block to, then bolt the valve onto that?
 
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Yes. You don't have to worry about a return line. All the ports are internal openings in the side of the block and spool that get mounted to the side of the 3pt housing. Each opening has an oring which seals the ports as you sandwich the block and spool together. I still wish I knew what those access ports you are asking about, which got me curious when I started this tread to begin with, actually access. The block that gets added also has 4 plugs in it that you must install prior to mounting. Would be nice to know what these access and can you tap into these for further expansion. I believe Mitsubishi engineers are probably the only source who would know this for sure, or whoever makes the block and spool. There were no access markings or brand markings of any kind on either piece:( The fittings were metric sizes. Most were BSPP standard and the hoses were made in Japan.
 
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Excellent mate, thanks heaps for your help with this one. When I get mine sorted out I'll post on back and let you know. Cheers
 
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Took some pics of the "hydraulic block" I had to remove in order to add the aux valve kit. The top plug in the block when removed does allow access to the hydraulic system. Hydraulic output or input would come through the oblong opening you see on the inside facing picture I've posted. The plug has a 8mm hex head to remove and appears to be 16mm in diameter. Don't have a means to measure the thread pitch.
 

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MrChris, sorry that I never got any pictures to you,:ashamed: I have just been unbelievably busy which is a good thing I guess. Looks like you decided to go OEM. It is a good valve, :thumbsup: just to bad that they only offer the single rear remote. :( I am contemplating installing a diverter valve on mine to get either another out let out of the OEM set or maybe even a 4 valve diverter and get away from my Prince Manual control valves.

Anyway, hope all has worked out for you. ;)
 
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Ok so I tapped straight into the top of that 'block', confident it's the PB outlet. Couldn't find a return line so I ran that all the way back to the fel control valve tank line, using a tee.

Messed up the outlet location, but it'll work; should have gone further to one side, but wanted to leave room for future expansion. Valve may look in a dicky location but I'm happy with it as it will be primarily used for cement mixer yet to arrive. So bugger it I can't really test it at the moment yet either!

Again massive thanks for the help. Off to work tomorrow for a month, do will post again once I'm back with the cement mixer working.....hopefully!!!
 

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Oh yeah... Got out of the whole lot for 300 bucks and a box of Budweiser!
 
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yeeehah said:
Oh yeah... Got out of the whole lot for 300 bucks and a box of Budweiser!

Yeehah, did you pull that plug and get a 16mm fitting or did you drill and tap into it? Just curious.
 
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yeeehah said:
Ok so I tapped straight into the top of that 'block', confident it's the PB outlet. Couldn't find a return line so I ran that all the way back to the fel control valve tank line, using a tee.

Messed up the outlet location, but it'll work; should have gone further to one side, but wanted to leave room for future expansion. Valve may look in a dicky location but I'm happy with it as it will be primarily used for cement mixer yet to arrive. So bugger it I can't really test it at the moment yet either!

Again massive thanks for the help. Off to work tomorrow for a month, do will post again once I'm back with the cement mixer working.....hopefully!!!

What model tractor is that? I noticed your FEL control up on the loader arm. On my 3215 its mounted down on the right fender.
 
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Sorry to give you a bum steer there MrChris, yeah just unscrewed that plug and screwed in new fitting. Not sure of thread type but it wasn't BSPP, non tapered thread with an o-ring seal.

And yep, she is a 3215; only has about 70 odd hours on it at the moment, haven't had it long. The valve has QDs to the loader so it can be removed. I was thinking about moving it to mount on the wheel arch, but it seems like a lot of dicking around for not that much gain. Would probably reduce a little arm fatigue, but I think cement in my coffe will sort that out!
 
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MrChris said:
Took some pics of the "hydraulic block" I had to remove in order to add the aux valve kit. The top plug in the block when removed does allow access to the hydraulic system. Hydraulic output or input would come through the oblong opening you see on the inside facing picture I've posted. The plug has a 8mm hex head to remove and appears to be 16mm in diameter. Don't have a means to measure the thread pitch.

FYI. Was just informed by a fellow member that this port is a tank return, not a pressure port.
 
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Well, it didn't take me too long to add a diverter and then TnT cylinders.:laughing: Special thanks to Brian at FitRiteHydraulics for custom making the side link.:thumbsup: It was a fun project. Almost sorry to see it done. Now all I have left is to practice using it!:)
 

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