2320- The First Fifty Hours

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Rob-D

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The first Fifty.

Well my 2320 just passed the fifty hour mark after almost a year so I did the required maintenance and a little more.

The word here is meticulous as I carefully changed all the oils from the tranny to the front axel (not required by Deere). I wasn’t going to change the front axel oil but I’m glad I decided too. Here’s why. As the oil was draining I could see minute specs of metal glistening in the noon day sun.

Since this was the first oil change I did my usual and that is to drill small holes in the end of the drain plugs for magnets. I’ve been doing this for twenty years on all my vehicles and I always catch metals on the plug which I wipe clean on my next oil change. I didn’t do the plug for the tranny because of the four large magnets in the screen assembly. I did change the hydraulic filter too even though I didn’t see it on the list of things to do. In fact I didn’t see it anywhere in my owners manual.

I checked the battery and topped it off. I’ve been keeping an eagle eye on it since I’ve read all the complaints as to leaking problems. Mine was fine for the first 15 or 20 hours but now it seems to be ‘weeping’ slightly. Usually a couple of times a week I get the hose and wash the whole area down. I haven’t seen any corrosion yet and I haven’t figured out exactly where the battery is leaking from although logic would dictate the breather holes in the caps as the seals seem to be ok with no cracking or drying out.

All the oils now are full synthetic from Amsoil. I could extend the next oil change but I won’t since it is 200 hours away.

It’s been a wonderful 50 hours and the little Deere did lots of work from snow blowing in February to scraping the barn in June. I‘ve moved tree, planted a fruit orchard, mowed several acres of field and now I’ll start digging holes for my solar panel posts and a trench to bury the line from the spring.

The 4WD blew through four foot snow up and down hills without the need for the chains I bought and have never used.

How did I ever live without this thing? I keep looking over my shoulder for someone to tell me you’re not allowed to have this much fun when you’re doing so much work!
 
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Rob, good to hear that the first 50 went so well! I'm looking at the same tractor, and it's good to hear positive reports from users. I sent you a pm....
 
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Rob-D said:
The first Fifty.


....Since this was the first oil change I did my usual and that is to drill small holes in the end of the drain plugs for magnets. ...

I am curious what you use for your magnets.

I have always thought this was a great idea but I never followed up on it.
 
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I used to build Porsche racing engines and I did it all the time. I've done it to all my cars -Toyota, Subaru, Porsche, BMW, etc.

I use small round Neos (NdFeB) magnets for their power. Do a search for them, small ones are cheap. Use 1/4 inch round Ni coated magnets about 1/4 inch long and drill a 1/4 inch hole in the end of the plug. Reccess the magnet about .010" and dent the top to keep the magnet from coming out. Just make sure not to crack the magnet they are brittle.

My JD has 4 mags, three in the front axel drain plugs and one in the engine drain plug.
 
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Rob-D

Good idea on the magnets, I will certainly add them the next time around. I do have them in My Suburu but it didn't even dawn on me to use them in the tractor.
When I did my 50 hr maintenance my dealer recommended that I hold off on the synthetic oil until 200 hours to ensure the engine was fully broken in so I would be curious to know your thoughts on that.
Did you notice in the manual that there are two different quantities for how much fluid to add to the drive. In the text is says 3.4 gal and in the capacity table it reads 2.6 gal. I sent an email to Deere and they responded that the 3.4 amount was correct. Trouble is that seems to be a bit too much (no bubble in the rear sight glass). I ended up with 3 gallons and called it good. I have another 15 hrs on the tractor since then and it seems to work as great as before.

I really agree with your comment on what did you ever do without a tractor!
 
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Rob-D said:
I used to build Porsche racing engines and I did it all the time. I've done it to all my cars -Toyota, Subaru, Porsche, BMW, etc.

I use small round Neos (NdFeB) magnets for their power. Do a search for them, small ones are cheap. Use 1/4 inch round Ni coated magnets about 1/4 inch long and drill a 1/4 inch hole in the end of the plug. Reccess the magnet about .010" and dent the top to keep the magnet from coming out. Just make sure not to crack the magnet they are brittle.

My JD has 4 mags, three in the front axel drain plugs and one in the engine drain plug.


Rob:

Good post on the 2320. It's the machine I will be getting. Glad to hear you like it so much.

On the magnets... great idea. Hope this doesn't sound dumb, but is there a way to better secure the magnet to the plug than just denting the top? I gotta wonder if there is the possibility of it coming loose with vibration and getting caught up in the gears of the tranny, etc. Maybe I am worrying about nothing, but can a set screw be put in? Better yet, are there drain plugs one can buy that are magnetized?

Stew
 
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I had an Alfa Duetto spider once. It lost 1st & 2nd gear because a bolt came lose from the shift fork for this pair. I found the bolt and nut imbedded on the magnet that Alfa put in the drain plug.

Ralph
 
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Glad to here your 2320 is working good. Can you tell us what kind of snowblower you are using. I have a 2520 and still have to get one for it, I want a rear mount blower and not sure what kind to bye.
 
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VTtractorguy said:
Better yet, are there drain plugs one can buy that are magnetized?

I know that they make magnetized drain plugs for oil pans of various cars. It would be a matter of finding the ones that matches the many drain plugs on the JD. I haven't changed my fluids yet (only 43 hours) but will be doing it soon. As I recall from looking at the manual, there are about half a dozen different plugs to drain all fluids from the various places.
 
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EdC said:
Rob-D

Good idea on the magnets, I will certainly add them the next time around. I do have them in My Suburu but it didn't even dawn on me to use them in the tractor.
When I did my 50 hr maintenance my dealer recommended that I hold off on the synthetic oil until 200 hours to ensure the engine was fully broken in so I would be curious to know your thoughts on that.
Did you notice in the manual that there are two different quantities for how much fluid to add to the drive. In the text is says 3.4 gal and in the capacity table it reads 2.6 gal. I sent an email to Deere and they responded that the 3.4 amount was correct. Trouble is that seems to be a bit too much (no bubble in the rear sight glass). I ended up with 3 gallons and called it good. I have another 15 hrs on the tractor since then and it seems to work as great as before.

I really agree with your comment on what did you ever do without a tractor!

Yep that sent me for a loop too. I read the manual and ordered a 5 gal pal of hydro oil and a couple of extra quarts so I would be ready for next time. I'd say mine has about 3 gal in it too.

One more thing the front axel is a bugger to refill and it took me awhile to do it. I put in about two quarts and it started to bubble out. I had to start the tractor and turn the gears a bit to get it to flow into the individual wheel drives. Let it settle too and keep checking it over a few days before you start your machine for that days work. Mine did come up to the 3 plus quarts but it took time.

Synthetics are fine from the go. Merc, Corvette, Porsche, Harley, Aston Martin, etc. all come from the factory with synthetic. All the cars above use Mobil 1 and Harley has their own which is most likely made by Mobil or one of the other synthetic oil companies.

Remember something, Synthetic oil is no more slippery then stock unmodded oil and synthetic oil has its origin in crude oil just like stock. If you break down an engine running synthetic, you'll never go back to stock oil.

If you ever blew a bearing in a tranny you know that the think that kills them is dirt, metal and poor lubricants.
 
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VTtractorguy said:
Rob:

Good post on the 2320. It's the machine I will be getting. Glad to hear you like it so much.

On the magnets... great idea. Hope this doesn't sound dumb, but is there a way to better secure the magnet to the plug than just denting the top? I gotta wonder if there is the possibility of it coming loose with vibration and getting caught up in the gears of the tranny, etc. Maybe I am worrying about nothing, but can a set screw be put in? Better yet, are there drain plugs one can buy that are magnetized?

Stew

I used to drill the hole and fill it with the magnets and liquid steel epoxy which would cover the complete magnet. It sure is bullet proof but I found it wasn't necessary. Once the magnet slips into the hole it isn't going anywhere, denting the top is just extra insurance but go ahead and encapsulate it in epoxy it will be easier to clean off.

One more thing, when I cleaned the filter for the tranny I noticed some oil sitting in the bottom of the filter cavity. I decided to clean it out and found several metal filings from when the original box was machined, small burrs on gears, etc. After I cleaned it out I ran a strong magnet to get all the remains.
 
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RalphVa said:
I had an Alfa Duetto spider once. It lost 1st & 2nd gear because a bolt came lose from the shift fork for this pair. I found the bolt and nut imbedded on the magnet that Alfa put in the drain plug.

Ralph

I loved the lines on those old Alfa's and they sure ran like the dickens when they ran, not that the MGBs and Triumphs were any better. I blew more over drive boxes in my Triumph then the Queen has diamonds.
And the Lucas electrics were horrible.

That's the old joke:
Why do the Brittish drink warm beer?

Because they use Lucas refigerators.

My friend and I got lost all over Europe for pennies a day in a Fiat Piccolo when I was a kid, you could touch both windows with your elbos if you stretched out your arms. It took us three weeks to find the heater, it was a flap in the back seat.

FIAT = Fix It Again Tony.

Come to think of it, VWs weren't the best running cars either. They were just cheap and easy to fix and JCW had all kinds of terrible ideas on how to make your car look 'cool'. Like the aluminum bare foot gas pedal. How many of you remember that? Too bad I couldn't take my girl friend out to the movies because I blew my money on that little item. It wasn't a happy evening.

Oh well, back to tractors.
 
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Rob-D
I haven't heard that Fiat acronym since I sold my 124 Spyder in 1979.

When I hit 100 hrs, probably fall at the rate I am going, July, August, and September are pretty hectic at work, the entire tractor will get switched to full synthetic.

The 2320 continues to surprise me. Today I lifted an 8 x 10 ft deck made out of 2x8s with a chain attached to the bucket hooks and the tractor was not even working hard. Picked it up, carried it for about 100 ft so it is out of the way when I work on that part of the house, and set it down as gentle as you please.
What was I thinking of waiting for three years to get a tractor?
 
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EdC said:
Rob-D
I haven't heard that Fiat acronym since I sold my 124 Spyder in 1979.

When I hit 100 hrs, probably fall at the rate I am going, July, August, and September are pretty hectic at work, the entire tractor will get switched to full synthetic.

The 2320 continues to surprise me. Today I lifted an 8 x 10 ft deck made out of 2x8s with a chain attached to the bucket hooks and the tractor was not even working hard. Picked it up, carried it for about 100 ft so it is out of the way when I work on that part of the house, and set it down as gentle as you please.
What was I thinking of waiting for three years to get a tractor?

Ed,
That spider was a neat car. One blew the doors off my TR250 on a windy road one day and I was sliding through turns with everything I had. It just out cornered me hands down.

I drove out to back pack into the Grand Canyon once in an MG Midget. I was so cramped that I didn't have any feeling in my right leg for a couple of days.
Aside from that it was a good trip. I got 38 mpg and hiked 9 miles uphill in 110 F with 44 lbs of cameras and gear. The best part is that night I drank a six pack of beer without having to go to the campsite outhouse once!

Glad you like your 2320 too.

Now if I can only get mine to fit through the kitchen door so I can hook up the PTO to the dish washer.
Rob
 
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Rob , very nice write up on the 2320.
I really like it when people really take care of there machine.
Sounds like you are getting a really good start on it....;)
Should give you many years of service.

Chris.....:)
 
 
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