2013 Tundra vs 2013 Ford

[Turbys_1700]

I remember in 1994 riding in a classmates new Z28, thinking it was one of the fastest stock cars I had ridden in. It had 275hp stock, LT1 350cu in automatic. It ran low 14s in the 1/4. This truck feels like that car. Way quicker than I thought.

When I turned 17 my dad gave me my sister's 1970 Old's Cutlass SX...
W30 455...
Needless to say...
It would run...

 

[94BULLITT]

I don't think Ford made a mistake by going all automatic. The 5 and 6 speed Torqueshifts are excellent transmissions for pulling trailers when combined with the tow/haul mode and integrated brake controller. I don't know how you could control a trailer any better with a stick shift. When you are in tow/haul mode the trans downshifts as you apply the brakes, the harder you brake the more aggressive the downshifts will be. If you want more control you can use the manual mode and select what gear you want. The auto will react faster to slow down in an emergency stop than trying to downshift a manual trans. At any rate it won't be long before the government will eliminate manual transmissions in pickups just because of emission controls.

I personally like manual transmissions but I haven't cared for them since they started drive-by-wire throttle control. Never could get used to the throttle at slow speeds, too jerky. If I want to shift gears I can drive my '59 White with its 13 speed RoadRanger transmission.

The F-150's with the 6R80 downshift as you hit the brakes in tow haul.

 

[jacksmithers]

I debated a Tundra CrewMax vs. a Ford Ecoboost CrewCab and went with the Ford, although I've owned a Ford (Ranger) for 10 years, and a Toyota (Tacoma) each for 10 years and 200k miles. The Toyota has been in my experience far and away the better quality, more reliable vehicle. I swore I would never buy another Ford, but broke down and bought one.

I drove the Tundra and F150 before buying my current F150 and actually like the Tundra better but the F150 gives me the ability to tow 11,100 lbs and has a 6.5 bed (Crew Cab). One thing I will never do is have another 5 ft bed like I did on my Tacoma again, and the Tundra for 2014, although I was hoping it wouldn't, continues the same bed length in the CrewMax (5.5 feet - in the CrewMax).

Look at what you're trying to do. If you don't need a 6.5 foot or longer bed (again CrewMax), and don't need over 9,100 in towing capacity, get the Tundra. No question, hands down, get the Tundra. Toyota is just flat out better. You can argue all day, but Toyota is better quality, and it holds its value longer. 10 years from now, someone will still pay up for a Toyota. Ford? Forget about it. Bottom dollar, if that.

If you need more capacity, go with the F150, but make sure it's properly equipped. Although Ford advertises an 11,000+ towing capacity for the F150, you have to get it properly equipped - with the Max Trailer Tow package. I also got mine with the Heavy Duty Payload package (very rare, but it allows you to realistically tow a 10,000 lb trailer). Toyota, on the other hand, advertises a certain towing capacity for the Tundra, and outfits nearly every one to do that.

 

[JIGBUILDER]

If you need more capacity, go with the F150, but make sure it's properly equipped. Although Ford advertises an 11,000+ towing capacity for the F150, you have to get it properly equipped - with the Max Trailer Tow package. I also got mine with the Heavy Duty Payload package (very rare, but it allows you to realistically tow a 10,000 lb trailer).

According to Fords Fleet advisory spec pages the F150 MAX tow package has up to 7700 GVWR with the smaller 4050 RAWR and 2000 lb payloads.

The F150 HD package has the bigger 8200 GVWR and 4800 RAWR E tires and wheel with 3100 lb payloads all depending on cab selection. The HD package as yours is the one to have.

The 6.2 gasser and the 3.5 EB engine both have tow rating up in the 11.2k-11.3k lbs.

 

[sodamo]

Can't speak to the Ford other than I'd likely not own another, but last two were class c RV and a conversion van, not p/u.
I did trade my 2007 GMC3500, diesel, double cab, 8 ft bed 4x4 auto for my 2012 Tundra crew cab, 5.7, 5.5 (I think) bed, 4x4 auto. Had roof racks installed for the occasional long item, have a trailer for others, Leer Cap for the dogs. Couldn't be happier. GMAC had major tranny work under warranty, couple of service calls at over $1k and only had 25k when traded. Probably never own another. Mileage isn't a great consideration as I have a 2 mile up hill trek to get home. Our Toyota dealership now has the GM dealership. Additionally, I privately sold my very basic 2009 Tacoma about same time and came out quite well financially. My wife sometimes reminds me that we should have gotten the Tundra instead of the GMAC, but I have to remind her the Tundra wasn't available, the GMC was on the lot.

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[boutym]

I debated a Tundra CrewMax vs. a Ford Ecoboost CrewCab and went with the Ford, although I've owned a Ford (Ranger) for 10 years, and a Toyota (Tacoma) each for 10 years and 200k miles. The Toyota has been in my experience far and away the better quality, more reliable vehicle. I swore I would never buy another Ford, but broke down and bought one.

I drove the Tundra and F150 before buying my current F150 and actually like the Tundra better but the F150 gives me the ability to tow 11,100 lbs and has a 6.5 bed (Crew Cab). One thing I will never do is have another 5 ft bed like I did on my Tacoma again, and the Tundra for 2014, although I was hoping it wouldn't, continues the same bed length in the CrewMax (5.5 feet - in the CrewMax).

Look at what you're trying to do. If you don't need a 6.5 foot or longer bed (again CrewMax), and don't need over 9,100 in towing capacity, get the Tundra. No question, hands down, get the Tundra. Toyota is just flat out better. You can argue all day, but Toyota is better quality, and it holds its value longer. 10 years from now, someone will still pay up for a Toyota. Ford? Forget about it. Bottom dollar, if that.

If you need more capacity, go with the F150, but make sure it's properly equipped. Although Ford advertises an 11,000+ towing capacity for the F150, you have to get it properly equipped - with the Max Trailer Tow package. I also got mine with the Heavy Duty Payload package (very rare, but it allows you to realistically tow a 10,000 lb trailer). Toyota, on the other hand, advertises a certain towing capacity for the Tundra, and outfits nearly every one to do that.

I saw a Tundra crew cab the other day with the 8 foot bed. No idea how they got it unless it was park of a special fleet order. Had no markings beside the usual factory stuff. When I bought mine the dealer told me there was no way to even order something like this.

 

[boutym]

I debated a Tundra CrewMax vs. a Ford Ecoboost CrewCab and went with the Ford, although I've owned a Ford (Ranger) for 10 years, and a Toyota (Tacoma) each for 10 years and 200k miles. The Toyota has been in my experience far and away the better quality, more reliable vehicle. I swore I would never buy another Ford, but broke down and bought one.

I drove the Tundra and F150 before buying my current F150 and actually like the Tundra better but the F150 gives me the ability to tow 11,100 lbs and has a 6.5 bed (Crew Cab). One thing I will never do is have another 5 ft bed like I did on my Tacoma again, and the Tundra for 2014, although I was hoping it wouldn't, continues the same bed length in the CrewMax (5.5 feet - in the CrewMax).

Look at what you're trying to do. If you don't need a 6.5 foot or longer bed (again CrewMax), and don't need over 9,100 in towing capacity, get the Tundra. No question, hands down, get the Tundra. Toyota is just flat out better. You can argue all day, but Toyota is better quality, and it holds its value longer. 10 years from now, someone will still pay up for a Toyota. Ford? Forget about it. Bottom dollar, if that.

If you need more capacity, go with the F150, but make sure it's properly equipped. Although Ford advertises an 11,000+ towing capacity for the F150, you have to get it properly equipped - with the Max Trailer Tow package. I also got mine with the Heavy Duty Payload package (very rare, but it allows you to realistically tow a 10,000 lb trailer). Toyota, on the other hand, advertises a certain towing capacity for the Tundra, and outfits nearly every one to do that.

I saw a Tundra crew cab the other day with the 8 foot bed. No idea how they got it unless it was park of a special fleet order. Had no markings beside the usual factory stuff. When I bought mine the dealer told me there was no way to even order something like this.

 

[94BULLITT]

I saw a Tundra crew cab the other day with the 8 foot bed. No idea how they got it unless it was park of a special fleet order. Had no markings beside the usual factory stuff. When I bought mine the dealer told me there was no way to even order something like this.

Are you sure it was a crewcab? The have a double cab. It is a extended cab but the doors open from the outside just like a crewcab. GM is now copying Toyota with their own version of a double cab.

 

[Mikeeemo]

I saw a Tundra crew cab the other day with the 8 foot bed. No idea how they got it unless it was park of a special fleet order. Had no markings beside the usual factory stuff. When I bought mine the dealer told me there was no way to even order something like this.

The Double Cab is the 'crew cab' of the series and is available with a 6 or 8 foot bed.

The Crew Max has a huge back seat, huge rear doors and a 5 1/2 foot bed.

The Crew Max takes space from the bed and gives it to the passengers.

The Double Cab is much bigger that what is referred to as an extended cab.

I had an extended cab in the past, there is no comparison.

I have a double cab 8 foot bed, they are not as common, but I see them on the road.

 

[boutym]

Are you sure it was a crewcab? The have a double cab. It is a extended cab but the doors open from the outside just like a crewcab. GM is now copying Toyota with their own version of a double cab.

Yep, it was a crew cab. I have a double cab so am intimately familiar with what they look like. I noticed it immediately because it looked LONG for a Tundra of any flavor and then it hit me it most certainly was a crew cab with the long bed. What made it more noticeable was that I had inquired about just this type of truck when I bought mine.