2 Wheel Tractors - Buying & Using

[farmerboybill]

Hi 955,

It depends on the model.

A solid axle machine (715, 725, 710, 730, 718, 722, G85, etc.) is a bear, especially with larger tires or wheel extensions. In tight areas, you'll end up going forward and backward a few times. There's a cheat - poor mans differential - but you can't use them to till.

A differential machine (735, 745, 737, 605, 850, 853, 107d, etc.) is easy peasy. You simply unlock the differential and spin it. If you're in a higher gear and you grab one brake, it'll spin faster'n you can!

 

[wstr75]

FarmerboyBill is correct, my 853 spins around faster than I can walk when I squeeze a wheel brake lever and make a 180 degree turn. The individual wheel brakes are sometimes all I use when mowing as I make quick brake inputs to make small changes in the tractor direction. It is easily and less effort than steering with the handlebars.
Bill in NC

 

[TimberXX]

I would like to see a non differential bcs mowing and turning with the free wheel adapter. I wonder how difficult it would be to turn.

 

[Mac2411]

Stumbled across this thread yesterday and just finished reading it. (A guy has to work sometime). What a great thread. Shame it stopped way back in 2011.

 

[oldmech]

Hi! I like walk behind! Here we have two kinds. One is without differential as Troy-Bilt Horse BCS 710-720 etc... And Bcs Grillo etc with differential and lock.
But They are one other. Walk behind without differential with steering clutch. Then asian walk behind ( 600 lbs) Kubota and Yanmar make very good ones. Steering clutch work very well (As on bulldozer) for turn or drive.When you press one hand lever you free the wheel (no power) Other wheel turn at same speed as before No two more fast as with differential and with brake we spill energy. And If we press two hand levers we stop the tractor and PTO is running as a Live PTO.
Agria makes 3400KL without differential with steering clutch.
I dont know if we can buy walk behind with steering clutch here in America.
Happy New Year ! Oldmech

 

[TimberXX]

Can a 3400 KL be $15k american?

http://www.machinio.com/listings/25...or-Agria-3400-KL-in-DE-40882-Ratingen-Homberg

 

[js5020]

Very possible to be 15K,,,, Gravely tried marketing rebadged Rapids and the larger models were close to that price if I remember correctly. Keep in mind that most of these machines with reasonable use and care will last beyond their original purchaser,,, most are truely buy once and your done machines.

 

[Jens767]

Hi TimberXX

Here is a link to a German internet-page with some more pictures of the tractor in question:

Gebrauchte Traktoren und Landmaschinen

Agria 2-wheel tractors are very well built but also very expensive, and therefore mostly used by professional users.

As I read the advert, you will get the Agria 3400 KL with a tiller and a power harrow for the price mentioned. Using the following German internet-pages, I have tried to evaluate the price:

Agria Einachsschlepper 3400 Diesel Schnellgang (Grundger舩) - MotorLand.net - Europas gr?ter Motorger舩e-Shop

Agria Anbau-Kreiselegge K 90 - MotorLand.net - Europas gr?ter Motorger舩e-Shop

Agria 3400 diesel: €8079.- ($11,031.-)
80 cm (31.5") tiller: €4789.- ($6,539.-)
90 cm (35") power harrow: €3529.- ($4,818.-)

This adds up to some $22,388.- incl. 19% German VAT (or $18,813.- without VAT), but still $2,868.- more than the price asked in the Machinio-advert.

This is still way above my budget, but as js5020 rightly points out, you are probably not buying an Agria for yourself, but for your children or even grandchildren. I see very few new Agrias in use here in Germany, but the older ones are very popular in the vintage-tractor scene and among private owners. Here you will easily see more than 50-year-old Agrias in original conditions running just fine, and most will probably even outlive their owners!

Rapid is a Swiss-made brand for the professional user, mostly seen in the alpine region of Central-Europe.


Best regards

Jens

 

[js5020]

Its unfortunate that the pricing structure is what it is with 2 wheel machines compared to ride on machines (similar), and in my situation I mainly just mow grass and remove some snow, I dont need equip for gardening as I do raised beds, both tasks are well within the capabilities of any "semi" modern 2 wheeler but mowing 4 acres with one every week or two is more than I want to do. I thought long and hard on a new BCS but ended up not buying due to the amount and frequency of mowing.

 

[TimberXX]

Very possible to be 15K,,,, Gravely tried marketing rebadged Rapids and the larger models were close to that price if I remember correctly. Keep in mind that most of these machines with reasonable use and care will last beyond their original purchaser,,, most are truely buy once and your done machines.

The rebadged rapids were nice because they had Hydrostatic trannys, which is a great feature. But they priced themselves out of the market when you can buy a kubota bx1860 for $9k.

 

[js5020]

That was my exact thought on the Rapids,,, for the price of one of the larger models I could have bought an X7 JD or a subcut with a 54 or 60 deck,, and although they were likely nice with the hydro it just didnt make sense to me. The BCS/Grillo machines seem to be the only new option now that I am aware of and even those get pretty spendy by the time you add a few attachments and although they are tough as nails it takes alot more time and effort to accomplish the same work for the coin spent.

 

[jimmymc2286]

I bought a Chinese 2 wheel tractor direct from China. It has a 10hp diesel engine that is a torque monster. I use it mostly for mowing with a gang reel mower I built for it. It also pulls an 8 inch plow great. I also built a 2 wheel sulky with a garden tractor sleave hitch for the plow, cultivators, anything for the sleave hitch. By the time I paid for the tractor plow and shipping, it still only cost me $1500 USD. Money well spent.

 

[stuckmotor]

Jimmy,
Is that one of the Chinese tractors with the flywheel on the side and headlight on front?
Stuck

 

[jimmymc2286]

Jimmy,
Is that one of the Chinese tractors with the flywheel on the side and headlight on front?
Stuck

Yes it is. I just love to play with it.

 

[js5020]

I bought a Chinese 2 wheel tractor direct from China. It has a 10hp diesel engine that is a torque monster. I use it mostly for mowing with a gang reel mower I built for it. It also pulls an 8 inch plow great. I also built a 2 wheel sulky with a garden tractor sleave hitch for the plow, cultivators, anything for the sleave hitch. By the time I paid for the tractor plow and shipping, it still only cost me $1500 USD. Money well spent.

Wow thats quite a deal in my opinion. Although one might be a bit "on your own" as far as attachments go, but most stuff could easily be made and its belt driven so things would be simple. Again I think at that price vs the amount of work that can be done in an hour or day it sounds very worth it.

 

[joecoin]

I bought a Chinese 2 wheel tractor direct from China. It has a 10hp diesel engine that is a torque monster. I use it mostly for mowing with a gang reel mower I built for it. It also pulls an 8 inch plow great. I also built a 2 wheel sulky with a garden tractor sleave hitch for the plow, cultivators, anything for the sleave hitch. By the time I paid for the tractor plow and shipping, it still only cost me $1500 USD. Money well spent.

Where did you buy it?

 

[jimmymc2286]

Where did you buy it?

I google searched chinese 2 wheel tractor and found a dealer in china that would ship it to me. I tried to find the paper work from him but have no idea where it is at. There are a lot of dealers so getting one here is not a problem. I would do it again in a heart beat. It is very low tech, but runs great and has more power than I can hook to the ground.

 

[3930dave]

I google searched chinese 2 wheel tractor and found a dealer in china that would ship it to me. I tried to find the paper work from him but have no idea where it is at. There are a lot of dealers so getting one here is not a problem. I would do it again in a heart beat. It is very low tech, but runs great and has more power than I can hook to the ground.

How did you handle payment ? Meaning general arrangements.... deposit, COD, etc....

Rgds, D.

 

[TimberXX]

Is the engine a yanmar clone? There is a great air cooled diesel clone thread on TBN.

Post some photos when you can I'm curious.

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[jimmymc2286]

How did you handle payment ? Meaning general arrangements.... deposit, COD, etc....

Rgds, D.

Payment was by bank transfer. It went into an escrow account and was only released when I signed for the tractor. I had it shipped by ship that way it didn't cost much. It only took about a month from start to finish. I also got an import broker to handle the import papers for me. It was the best thing for me to do. You will be shocked how cheap things can be bought from China.