2 vs 3 spd HST and transmission controls

[ovrszd]

They both have (I believe) the same loader on them. But I could be wrong. Not sure what telescoping arms are, but now I know to ask. Thanks!

I'm wondering if the dealer thinks you don't know much about the differences between the two models so might not be worth the money spent?? Not implying he's guiding you wrong. Just thinking maybe he's trying to sell you what you will use and not things you don't need.

I'll go back to TripleR's post, never compare the two models side by side and you'll be fine with the E.

 

[ovrszd]

I knew I was getting in over my head, but I didn't realize the water could be quite this deep. I'm still learning to swim. But I'll get there.

Yes you will. Enjoy the trip. Shopping for a new tractor is half the fun of owning it.

 

[Musdalen]

The speed thing works like this, in low medium and high, you can go 0-top speed for that range. In high range, though, you have less torque. If I have my tractor in high and try to pull a heavy log for example, the tractor won't do it, it just bogs down and the HST hits the pressure relief. In low, you have much more torque. In low range, I can hitch up at an immovable object and my tractor will spin the tires rather than bogging down.

For me, medium range is where I'm at 90+% of the time. Low has great torque, but I usually want to go more than 3 MPH or whatever it is. High is plenty fast, but I don't get enough torque to the ground. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like with a 2 speed I'd always be wanting a little more torque if I was in high or a little more speed of i was in low.

Does that make sense?

Indeed it does. I"m going to have to experience this. I have just the log to play with right now too. 15 ft long, about 36" in diameter. A bit light, being basswood, but wet and heavy enough. If the 3 speeds give a wider range of speeds and torque, esp. the torque, then I need to think about it more carefully.

 

[k0ua]

They both have (I believe) the same loader on them. But I could be wrong. Not sure what telescoping arms are, but now I know to ask. Thanks!

This local guy can help demonstrate extendable lower links with these videos. They say a picture is worth a thousand words.. well what do you think a video is worth?

Easier Three Point Hitch Hookup - YouTube

Hooking up a Three Point Implement - YouTube

 

[k0ua]

here is another one..

Three Point Options - YouTube

 

[k0ua]

Also don't forget that the 3038 e has a cast aluminum rear end.. mechanical gas gauge, Non removable loader and other cost savings measures.

 

[bigtiller]

You mentioned tree work in timbered areas. Has your dealer talk about the 4105? It has a base price of $28000 and has a much wider stance. I think the 3000 series may feel a little tippy when on side hills in the timber.

 

[Musdalen]

James, now I see what you were talking about. How are chiropractors supposed to stay in business if everyone has stuff like that?

I thought it was something on the loader arms, but I can see how helpful they would be on the 3 pt .


A nonremoveable loader might be a big PITA. I didn't realize that was the case. I'll have to look into that one. I might not take it off often, but not being able to do it at all would be a big issue I think.

 

[TSO]

Since you have brought up pricing as a factor, it is important to mention that there are several tractor lines from other manufacturers that will offer you much better value for your money. I encourage you to shop around for Kioti, LS, and a few other manufacturers before you make your decision.

For example, LS has the XG line which cross-shops with the Deere E series you're considering... As well as the XR line which compares to the Deere R series you're considering. You would likely be able to pick up the comparable LS tractor for several thousand dollars less than the comparable Deere tractor.

Kioti has the CK line which competes.

Massey has their own E series (1734e/1739e) which compares.

Kubota has their L series...

Bottom line, nearly every manufacturer offers a competing model, and you would do yourself a great disservice if you didn't take the time to shop around all the available manufacturers in your area. Deere makes fine products and I have nothing against them, but in my opinion they are both overpriced, and in many cases underperforming, compared to most of the competition.

If you take the time to shop around, you will likely get a better machine with better capabilities, for less money.

 

[Musdalen]

Bigtiller, I do have some hills, short and steep. I dn't have to sidehill at all, and I don't. I do have to go up and down, but no sdiweas (because they are short). Tippiness should not be a factor. Squeezing between trees is however.