1973 Ford 5000 Will Not Run

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Oldyellowtractor

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Hi,

I have been trying to repair my dad's 1973 Ford 5000 diesel. The tractor quit in the field while bush hogging, it apparently had trash in the fuel tank. We cleaned the tank, added clean fuel, and replaced the fuel filter. We bled the pump and the tractor cranked and ran for about 1 hour, then it quit. After that, you could push the cold start button and it will run for about two minutes, then slowly die. First, I rebuilt the lift pump, no change. Then I found a small fuel leak in the line at the inlet to the lift pump, so I replaced the line thinking it was sucking air. That didn't change anything either. Note, the fuel tank is clean, and the fuel is fresh and clean.

Here is a description of what it does. Crank the tractor, it runs fine for about two minutes, then slowly dies. After it dies, you can bleed the fuel system, and air comes out each bleed screw. (I'm bleeding the screw on top of the filter first, then the rear screw on the injector pump, then the front screw) Then you can crank it and again it dies after two minutes. Now, while it's running, no fuel is returning back to the tank, but when you use the manual pump lever on the lift pump, the fuel will return to the tank. Also, when it is running, it runs fine, doesn't miss, smoke or anything. It cranks right up without using the cold start right after it's bled.

I did find one small leak where the line comes from the shut-off valve on the tank to the lift pump. It appears that the threads on the shutoff valve are damaged. I'm going to replace the shut-off valve to fix the leak.

Is it possible that there is enough air coming from the leaky fuel line to kill the motor? I know it has leaked in the past, and it ran fine. If there was a leak somewhere that was sucking air, fuel wouldn't come out, would it? How would I find a leak like that? What could cause the fuel not to return to the tank when it's running?

This thing has me baffled. I don't know what else to try.
 
   / 1973 Ford 5000 Will Not Run #2  
Did you clean the screen inside the tank
 
   / 1973 Ford 5000 Will Not Run
  • Thread Starter
#5  
That screen is missing. The new valve should come with one.
 
   / 1973 Ford 5000 Will Not Run #6  
I take it the tractor does't have a fuel filter? And also, you say it runs for 2 minutes, is that Idle or full throttle?

Either way, it sounds like poor fuel flow. Maybe have pump checked if all else fails. Without a filter, gunk could have entered and partially plugged fuel pump.
 
   / 1973 Ford 5000 Will Not Run
  • Thread Starter
#7  
It has a fuel filter, a brand new one. It doesn't matter if its at idle or full throttle.
 
   / 1973 Ford 5000 Will Not Run #8  
Bypass screen, filter. Fill up an clean 5 liter buchet with new diesel. Put the feedline directly in the bucket. Bleed the system from "buchet to top", meaning do not forget the 4 diesel injectors C9NN9F593B. This way we got a lot of Volvos, Scanias did not stop ;-), running when frost clogged the fuel lines during the winter months. If it works on a 6 cyl. Volvo,
it works on a 4 cyl. Ford.
 
   / 1973 Ford 5000 Will Not Run #9  
Our old 5000 did this a while a go and the lift pump on the side of the motor had a fine crack in the seal within the lift pump, a new lift pump and away it went. Pumps aren't all that dear just be sure to get it back on the crank shaft correctly.
 
   / 1973 Ford 5000 Will Not Run #10  
ensure good flow that does not taper from the tank.. pull return line and aim into bucket.. bleed out and see what you get.

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