1967 Ford 4000 (saved from scrapyard)

[DAVISUNLIMITED]

Hi,
I keep finding myself on this forum while doing google searches on tractors and farm implements. So I figured now was the time to join.
While at an estate sale The very nice widow mentioned that her husbands old tractor which had been sitting for 5 years was going to be picked up for scrap in the following week. I thought about this on the way home, the neighbor had said it had been a good running tractor so when I got there i looked up the vehicle weight, called her up and offered her $500 for the old Ford 4000 provided the motor was not stuck.
I brought it home yesterday.
I am attaching a picture as it sits on the trailer.
It needs new rims and tires as the calcium was put in as ballast without tubes.
I am also attaching a picture of a switch that I do not know what it may be used for.
Oil and coolant look good.
Fuel is reddish and doesn't smell quite right so I assume it is old heating oil.
Aside from emptying and cleaning out the tank and replacing, fuel filters, a new battery and checking the air cleaner...is there anything else I should do before trying to start her up?
I look forward to your comments.

Thanks very much - Jim

 

[Muhammad]

Welcome to TBN.

 

[mjw357]

Welcome, nice find!

The switch may be a battery disconnect?

I'd drain the crankcase and check for water, antifreeze etc.

 

[creekbend]

It would probably be a good idea to check all the hoses and clamps. Perhaps checking the hydraulic fluid level also? Check this website for more specs and info on your make and model TractorData.com - information on all makes and models of tractors BTW, Welcome aboard.

 

[Briana03]

Welcome to TBN

I moved your thread to the Ford Vintage Tractors Forum.

 

[strum456]

Good call on flushing the tank and change the fuel filters. Injection pumps arent cheap. Dont ask how i know this...

 

[Soundguy]

bump the starter a hair and see if she will spin.. just a bump.. if no fan movement.. don't hammer on her.. at that point I'd be pulling injectors..

 

[DAVISUNLIMITED]

Thanks for for the good advice so far.

I may have found a problem.
I pulled one of the 2 filters to take to the parts store and forgot to close the fuel shutoff valve. There is a half a tank of old fuel but no fuel ran out except what little bit was in the old filter itself.
Must be pretty gunky in there...

Here are my questions for now:

Is it a big deal to remove the entire tank, valve and line for cleaning? Or Would I be better off pulling the valve and line and flushing the tank in place?

Provided I am able to get her goin, what is my best bet for finding replacement rims for a '67 with the power adjusted rear wheels 6 clamps and rails per rim?

Tires too 13.6 - 38?

Thanks very much

 

[strum456]

You are not going to like the price of those You might want to look for some non-power adjust rims and centers. I would search locally first. Shipping will probably make anything else cost prohibitive

 

[Soundguy]

i'd leave the tank in place.. otherwise you will be pulling the cowling and all..

might check some salvage yards for rims.. big on in pa

 

[DAVISUNLIMITED]

I did put a jump on it and it turned. Now I have a new battery I hope to clean the tank and lines, put in the new filters and try to fire it up tomorrow.

Along those lines... Does this baby have glow plugs I need to preheat as on my '08 Massey 33? Does anyone have a generic startup sequence I should follow?

Excuse my ignorance, This thing was built before I was born. Looks like a real solid piece of equipment though

 

[DAVISUNLIMITED]

Looked like pulling the tank might be a bit of work, thanks

Centers are fine, I just need the rims with rails. I wonder if I could cut the old rails off and weld them to new rims of the right size. I'm pretty handy like that.

Rims and tires are gonna break the bank!

 

[strum456]

i'd leave the tank in place.. otherwise you will be pulling the cowling and all..

might check some salvage yards for rims.. big on in pa

Where in pa?

 

[Soundguy]

wengers of PA.. hit em online..

as for the weld cut n paste. sure.. might work.

I've done similar with older PA rims on the prior models.

you may or may not have a thermal starting aid setup on that machine i'm not familiar with them as much.. don't use em here in florida... i'm more familiar with the prior models anyway.... check the intake for somehing vaugely resembling a spark plug..

 

[DAVISUNLIMITED]

Got it running this afternoon after cleaning out a lot of sludge in the tank, shutoff valve (which had a screen in it where it threads into the tank) and lines.
Bled it out,new battery and a shot of ether. Fired right up. Sounds good!
No glow plugs in this one.
PTO,3pt and loader all worked.

2 new issues:

PTO seems to spin whether in the engaged or disengaged position? Is this because there is no load on it? or do I have a problem?

Pulled the hydraulic level plug next to the parking brake to check to see if it was full and orange foam ran out. Is this just because water weeped in while sitting and it needs to be drained and refilled with new or is this a larger problem?

Thanks- Jim

 

[Soundguy]

orang is rust.. foam is likey water.. orange foam is liekly rusty water being churned and emulsified intot he oil.

any machine that has sat a while needs a full service..e tc.

as for the pto... if , when disengaged, you can use a board ( NOT A BODY PART!!! ) and lay against it and leverage it to a stop... it's more or less ok.. insomuch that it has a worn out or non operative PTO brake.. which normally holds it stopped. if however, it stays powered and you are unable to stop it with a 2x4, when disengaged.. then there is a problem.. like the hyd clutch is staying engaged.. possibly warped plates.. or they piled up....

post back

 

[whodat526]

i bought the same setup out of a salvage yard about 3 months ago alo i payed almost 3 times as much but in the same shape. so you did go on the tractor as for as the pto run it a little while and see if it starts cutting off setting that long may have stuck a valve mine was doing the same thing but after running it a few times it went to working correctly

 

[DAVISUNLIMITED]

OK, Next question from the newbie in Maine...
I just drained the transmission and rear axle. There was quite a bit of water in each, especially the trans. Now they are both mostly drained but still dripping foamy oil.

Should I? :

Flush them out. (if so with what)
Fill them up and drain them again after some light use.
Fill them up and don't worry about it.

Thanks-Jim