15% ethanol in gasoline passes.

   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes. #11  
i do alot of bsiness with the dairy farming community. These folks are having a hard time with grain prices, geez, i wonder why. Not a good idea to burn our food for fuel.
 
   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes. #12  
EPA has been up to no good lately. A lot of power/control. Who oversees them? And has the power to reverse a decision of theirs?
 
   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes. #13  
I just heard that Carol Browner is stepping down as Obama's "top adviser on energy and climate change". Maybe the tides will change temporarily, I think Obama will concentrate on whatever is needed for him to get reelected.


Not a good idea to burn our food for fuel.

You are a man of great wisdom :thumbsup:

OTOH, maybe it would help our overweight issues :(

Ken
 
   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes. #14  
I still say - if someone like Duffster wants more ethanol- fine- visit the E85 pump and get some to mix into your gas. Leave the rest of us alone that don't want it.:thumbsup:
I admit I haven't had problems in late model vehicles with it, other than reduced fuel mileage. I have had problems in small engines and have had problems storing it.
 
   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes. #15  
If it gives you less MPG (and it does) then you have to buy more gas. Then the state and Fed government gets more money on the gas tax cause they sold more.. They win!!!

:thumbsup: exactly, it's all about the money, plus you'll have to spend more on break downs, and everytime $$$$ are spent the feds get more $$$$. It's just like oxygen sensors on vehicles, complete waste of consumers $$$ but great for inspection time and an expensive worth nothing fix :thumbsup:
 
   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes.
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#16  
i do alot of bsiness with the dairy farming community. These folks are having a hard time with grain prices, geez, i wonder why. Not a good idea to burn our food for fuel.

Exactly, Just who is Supposed to be running this ox-cart?The economy is just floundering. Jy
 
   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes. #17  
I hate it. What a crap fuel. They have us all so brain washed. We are happy to get 30 mpg in a car and 15 mpg in a truck but I remember my 1986 Ford Escort got over 35 mpg and my dad had a F-150 at the time that got better than 15 mpg.

We have taken 4 steps backwards for each step forward.

Chris
 
   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes. #18  
I hate it. What a crap fuel. They have us all so brain washed. We are happy to get 30 mpg in a car and 15 mpg in a truck but I remember my 1986 Ford Escort got over 35 mpg and my dad had a F-150 at the time that got better than 15 mpg.

We have taken 4 steps backwards for each step forward.

Chris
At least part of the mpg loss in response to our need for more power to the wheels, and today's pickups weigh much more than yesterdays. (My '09 Silverado tips the scales at +-5800lbs depending on how full the tank is; my '87 is a lightweight at 4600lbs.)

However, you are correct. I believe we have the technology and the ability to achieve decent mileage, adequate power, and clean air. We need to send a message with our wallets. As long as we are satisfied buying trucks that get 15 MPG, that's what we're going to get.
 
   / 15% ethanol in gasoline passes. #20  
In my are, E10 has been very common for about 20 years. Its actually hard to find pure gas, and what you can buy is only 87 octane. I think E10 is O.K. for a vehicle that gets driven daily. I've never had any problems with it, but for small engine, I hate it. Like everyone else says, gas just doesn't last and the ethanol makes it worse.
 

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