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I love the CVT. It does not have the hydro whine, which means I just listen to the diesel rumble that I love in a tractor. In addition, all the power is transferred, so the 50 hp 8N is a legitimate 50 hp of useable power. I think the 8N is currently the best buy on the market. CVT trans, 50...

Here we go again. "...lots of complaints with the CVT transmission...." I have one, and I love the CVT transmission. It transmits all the power to the ground, does not have the hydro whine, and is a joy to use. I have emailed and talked in fora with lots of 8N owners, and have not heard a...

Thanks, GBSoren and REPowell. I'll get it checked at my 50 hour service. The guy I bought it from said it had all the software updates. But, he also said it would have a full tank of fuel (it was bone dry), he said the driver would stop and get it washed before he delivered it (it was covered...

GBSoren - is there a way to tell if the software updates have been done? Does it show on the data screen some way? Thanks. Dave

I have not had a single problem or issue with the CVT. I love it. It does not make that irritating whine that a hydro makes, and transfers all the power to the wheels. I drove a Ford Escape with CVT transmission, and it took some getting used to. Same with the 8N, but once you get used to...

I gotta tell you, I am loving my new 8N. The CVT transmission is great - all the power and convenience, but none of the whine of a hydro tranny. Plus, power to boot - did I say that already? The prices they are moving them at are a tremendous value now - a 50 hp state-of-the-art tractor for a...

I wrote New Holland corporate to ask if the Boomer 8N had been discontinued. According to the reply, there is no indication it will be discontinued. The reply added that, if any models are discontinued, parts and service are guaranteed for at least ten years. Seems like the ten year mark is...

Well, I thought it included compact tractors. Now, I'm confused. Here is the link, if anyone wants to interpret it: U.S. Retail Farm Equipment Sales: Summary - Bloomberg

U.S. Retail Farm Equipment Sales: Summary By Kristy Scheuble - Jan 12, 2011 2:28 PM ET Industry sales of row-crop tractors rose 15 percent last month, while four-wheel drive tractors rose 40.1 percent in Dec., according to the Association of Equipment Manufacturers...

That's too bad about the Dublin, GA plant - there were 50 - 100 jobs lost. That was just an assembly plant, though - the component parts were brought in and assembled there. I have seen no news that is the end of the Boomer 8N. They could be assembled at any Boomer assembly plant. Don't...

Is that because the collector comes to get the monthly payment, and takes the tractor instead?

Can't wait to get it. I would appreciate any safety tips, since my land is pretty hilly. I know the FEL load should be kept at front axle level or less when traveling. Mow hills up and down? What other tips?

Go to the New Holland forum and read my comments on the current value of the New Holland Boomer 8N. It is a 50hp with CVT, and you can find some great buys right now.

Andy, what kind of mower do you have on your 40? Is it a finish mower? What size? What quality cut do you get? (lawn quality?)

BigBull, you're right. The MX5100 is a good deal. But it is not similarly equipped to the 8N. For my money, the 8N is far the better deal. But, your mileage may vary, as they say.

That's what I'm talking about - at that price, I think it's probably over-valued. Most of us buying tractors are going to buy the most tractor we can get at a given price, and we're not going to buy a tractor because it's cute and has chrome on it. But lower that price significantly, and we...

TMR - I paid $27,300 for the package I described above, and that included transport (about $800-$1000). Do some comparisons - I don't think you'll find a 40hp Kubota or John Deere - much less a 50 hp with CVT trans - for that price.

Yep, theghoul, that price is right on target - for a unit that lists out at $40k or more. I'm telling you, the 8N at that price is one of the best (if not THE best) in the market today.

After much agonizing, deciding, and re-deciding, I pulled the trigger on the purchase of a new (well, 2009) New Holland Boomer 8N from Tim at New Albany Tractor Sales in Indiana. I bought it with a QA FEL and Hawkline 6 foot slip clutch shredder, Rimguard R-4 tires, and a red front grill guard...

Hmmm. All good points - how would the batteries be recharged? How often is a tractor not under load? What damage would be done to a diesel engine, cutting on and off? How irritating would it be to have the diesel cutting off, then on again - it's not like a quiet car, where you hardly hear...

I've been renting (while overseas working) a Ford Escape Hybrid. I love this thing. It's got me thinking. One of the downside of hybrid cars is the weight of the batteries. But in a tractor, weight is a good thing. So, why no hybrid tractors? Look, a hybrid tractor could work. When I'm...

The prettiest, for me, is that New Holland 8N. I could do without the chrome ROPS, but it looks beefy, has 50 horses, and a CVT tranny. The best one will be the one my wife will let me buy - maybe a used Craftsman lawn mower.

Thanks, MFRED. Do you guys ship to upstate NY?

Thanks, all. This is good info, and gives me a starting place. I sure wish MF would have a pricing feature on their website.

Thanks, all. What kind of discount off price was that, 6shooter? Sounds like a good price.

I am thinking strongly about buying a MF 1643. Unfortunately, on the MF website I cannot find a "build your own" feature so I can get an idea of pricing. Am I missing it? Could some of you guys give an idea of what you paid for a 1643? I'm thinking of the 1643 with FEL, a six-foot bush hog...

Boy, am I with you in this one, Brother. I'm having the same, well, ahem, discussion. "But can't you buy a used one?" Well, sure, but: 1. I don't know how it was treated. Tractors can be used rough, you know. 2. Warranty - if I buy it new, I know how it's maintained, and I get the full...

No, the question is, if you pay to have the tractor "loader ready," which includes the joystick, etc (at a cost of about $1800), then do you still have to pay the full price for the FEL? Anybody bought a New Holland recently, after checking the price on the "Build Your Own" site on the New...

When I use the built it feature on the New Holland website, it charges me almost $2000 to get the tractor "FEL ready" and then another $4960 for the FEL. That makes the total cost for the FEL almost $7000. That can't be right, can it?

Just bumpin' this so you can maybe get an answer. I'd like to know, too, since a power reverser would save some money. Without getting into the whole Hydrostatic vs gear issue, I think the power reverser could be the best of all worlds - especially for ground engagement work.

Spsteve, that is an absolutely beautiful tractor. Thanks for the photos - you have a nice spread. What equipment did you get with your 8N? Looks like you're using it mainly for baling, is that right? At any rate, it's a beauty. I want one so bad I can taste it, but it's not destined to be.

Man, I don't care what problems it might have in 30 years, if I could afford one, I'd have one. I think the 8N is one of the prettiest tractors I have seen. For some reason, it just sings to me. If one of you guys would just come up with a $20k cash gift to me, I could get one.

That is a beautiful tractor, to be sure.

So, they are already shipping? Any dealers have them?

Anyone have an 8N? How is it working? You like it? What kind of deal did you get? But the big question is this - can you get it without that darned chrome ROPS? I love the tractor - absolutely love it - but that chrome ROPS would get me mocked by every farmer within mocking distance.

Yep, Barlows is a resource. I'll tell you, my local dealers will have to make a good price to keep me from buying from Barlows. No Kubota reps on site? Wondering when the info on the 3800 is going to hit the website.

I'm in upstate New York - Finger Lakes region. That's bad news, I think, about the L3700 being discontinued. I was going to buy one after the first of the year. What about pricing for the L3800? Any word on how much more it will be, equally set up with FEL, than the L3700? (I'm assuming...

Has anyone seen any concrete info on the rumored new L3800? Any Kubota dealers/reps here? When will Kubota update their website to reflect the 3800? I saw one post that said the L3800 was anticipated in mid-Nov. I saw another that had a reputed L3800 photo. But nothing concrete yet from...

What does the term "Wet Stacking" mean in a diesel engine? "Wet Stacking" happen when a diesel engine operates below the rated output level the engine starts over-fuel or "wet stack". Diesel engines are designed to operate with a load and operate more efficiently in the 70 to 80% range of...

Thanks. That answers it exactly, and makes the L3700 an even better deal, I think.

Being a newbie, I know I'm asking dumb questions, but.... When I go to the Kubota build site to price a model (such as the L4400), I note that you can select the FEL, and then there's another place you can price the bucket. So, the stupid question is, do I have to buy the bucket extra, or does...

Some random points: I know everyone loves to bash the unions and blame them for the exodus of jobs overseas. Two questions: If a worker is injured in an on-job accident in India, what coverage does he have? (I think you can answer that question.) Would you do your current job with NO...

The way I figure it, is that the dealership makes good money on the tractor sale, and continues to make good money on equipment, service, and repairs. What I would like, and I would think it should work this way, is to be able to call the salesman I bought the tractor from so he could act as my...

WNY770 - Thanks. I looked at Romance website, and he has some used tractors I might be interested in. When I'm ready to pull the trigger, I think I'll give them a call. Dave

Well, this is heartening - some people have had great experiences, so it was just this one dealer who feels like he doesn't need the business. If you look around where I am, about all the tractors are the same color - the one he's selling - so I can see how he might feel like he was wasting...

I've been researching tractors for our farm (land - I guess a farm has to at least act like it's trying to make money) and have started visiting dealers. I've gone to several now. The other day I went to one of the big two dealerships. I won't say which brand it was, as I don't want this to...

What do you guys think of the flail mowers? Would a flail mower handle 5-6 ft goldenrod/brush?

Sorry, Tom. I call them all bush hogs - that's how I grew up. I also call all tissues Kleenex.:o I get your point, though.

Rod, Where are you? I've got property with drumlins, too, and I know exactly what you're talking about with the rocks. Seems like every spring there is a new crop of rocks that have popped out of the ground. We're in the Finger Lakes area of NY state - God's Country, for sure. Dave

Beppington, I love that tractor. What size bush hog is that again? How does the tractor work it? Think it could handle pretty grown up (over 6 ft brush and some 1-2" saplings) abandoned pasture?

That's a good point, transit, about the scalping with a wide deck. I suspect I may have some pretty uneven terrain - I have not even walked the whole property yet. McGregor is right, I fear, about the time aspect. I have not done the math yet, but 50+acres with a 6-foot hog is going to take...

Dealer emphasized that the tractor would get light in the front end when hogging uphill, with the 3ph. Seems to me like front weights would be cheaper than the pull along rig difference. I can see swinging the tractor around and taking out a section of fence with the 3ph rig, though!:laughing:

And a follow-up question: the dealer said I should get a bush hog that is wider than the stance of the tractors. I understand that makes it easier to mow up to woodlines, but is there another practical reason?

I just went to the John Deere dealer to talk about tractors and stuff. As an aside, I must say they really like their tractors - don't think they should be discounted much. I need a tractor to bush hog about 50 acres of abandoned pasture in hilly terrain. I'm looking at a JD 5045E or a Kubota...

Seems to me the LS models are a lot of tractor for a good price. Price out a Boomer 50 on the NH site, and Deere nor Kubota can compete with it - in price. At that price, if New Holland stands behind them with the NH brand, reputation, and service, seems like a good deal. But LT said this was...

I'm down to making some initial decisions, and these two are major contenders. The Deere is shuttle transmission, turbo, and hydraulic brakes. The Kubota is sync transmission, non-turbo, and mechanical brakes. The Deere makes its PTO power at 2400 rpm, while the Kubota requires about...

I say, buy what you need for the moment and for your foreseeable future, but don't buy for the long, long term. Chances are, you won't have the tractor in 30 years. I'm guilty of the same thing, myself. I come up with all kinds of reasons to buy what I really want anyway. I happen to like...

You've hit a nerve, Ken, and you're right. The middle class doesn't stand a chance. The Congress just tried to pass a bill to give tax breaks to companies that bring back jobs into the US from overseas, and penalize companies that offshore jobs out of the US. What was the result? The Party...

Steve, you raise a good question about the brush hogging. After I whack out the saplings, and there is a sizeable number of them in some parts of the fields, do they leave stobs that are going to puncture my tires and just be a pain to walk through? I'm planning on about a six foot bush hog...

MBDiagman, I'm with you on the old school thinking. A tractor should be solid, with a bulletproof engine. Do you use a FEL? If so, how does the transmission affect its use? I know we went for decades with regular old transmissions with FELs, and seemed to get by, but now everyone seems to...

Yep.E I would love to have the 5045, because, like you, I think a tractor should be a tractor. I just can't afford the 5045E, though, and with my hills I guess I need the 4-wheel drive. I'm still thinking on it, though. I may end up with a 4105, which I can afford and which is 4x4. I'm...

I've also posted this on the John Deere buying and selling forum, but wanted to open it to the greater community to get more ideas. I've read years worth of posts on this website - I'll tell you, ya'll are a wealth of information. I marvel at the power of the web - at the information available...

Ha!0 Steve, I had to laugh out loud at the 110 tlb suggestion. I told you, I expect to win the Lottery any day, but until then.... I'm looking to stay under 20-22k. Given my lack of mechanical ability, I would like to buy something still under warranty. Who wouldn't prefer a new tractor...

Seems like you went through a lot of the same decisions I'm making right now - I have a post titled 4x4 or 2x4. How do you like your tractor? It's a D model, right? Do you miss the 4x4? I notice you might have a flail mower - I have fields that are grown up to 6 feet with brush...

I've read years worth of posts on this website - I'll tell you, ya'll are a wealth of information. I marvel at the power of the web - at the information available. Well, here's my situation. We're buying (I hope, Good Lord willin' and the loan comes through) about 80 acres in upstate New...