Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup

/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #1  

oldgoat2

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2005 Kubota L3400HST
I bought an L3400HST. It is a nice tractor but I still do not like the single HST pedal as well as the two pedal systems on the larger models (competitors) I test drove while shopping. After looking at the L3400 setup, it should not be difficult to modify the tractor to add a second reverse pedal without altering the factory setup. But then, if I could accomplish this, I am wondering if someone has not already come up with a kit that could be purchased. Does anyone know of such a kit?
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #2  
How long have you had your tractor? If it is new then I would suggest that you try to get used to the single pedal HST. You might like it. Now, after putting some hours on my B3030, I find that the 2 pedal tractors feel awkward. With the single pedal it seems to put my leg in a more comfortable position, just like setting on a chair. The 2 pedal tractors make me stick my leg out and it seems to be more effort to change pedals. Of course, I am sure that I coulod get used to that, too. Not sure if anyone has done what you are thinking about but, I bet it could be done. Good luck and enjoy your tractor.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #3  
I agree with Toolguy. I preferred the two pedal system at the dealers while I was weighing Deere against Kubota. The two pedal system somehow felt more comfortable. But having put in some seat time, I wouldn't change the single pedal system now.

If you decide to alter it, best check what effect this might have on your warranty.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #4  
I also have an L3400HST. I have a JD355D which is two pedal so I get to drive both. The two pedal is just a bit quicker but... every now and then I hit the wrong pedal and go in the wrong direction. Lucky I was not real close to anything. It has never happened to me on the single pedal.

Maybe I'm just a klutz because I wear size 13's.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #5  
I agree with Toolguy and Inveresk. I have both and don't have a preference either way. Be sure your not putting your whole foot on the pedal.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #6  
While shopping for the right machine /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif, I also tried the two pedal tractors and at that time preferred them over the single pedal. I ended up with a single pedal Kubota L2800 and the single pedal is perfect for me. I took very little time to get used to it.
Give it some time ......you can always change it later
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #7  
Hopefully you can make something work. I've had Kubota tractors with a single hydro pedal for the last 4 years. I still strongly prefer dual pedals. It's just my opinion, but I think Kubota's single pedal sucks as well. I have to use the cruise control to drive the tractor or I get shin splints driving them. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #9  
I know where ther's a nice Kioti for sale, Dargo. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup
  • Thread Starter
#10  
Thanks guys. I did just get the tractor so I have not practiced at all. I will use it for several hours through the winter and spring before I do anything different. It usually takes me several sets of mental plans to find one to cover all the bases. My conversion ideas just involves linkage or a cable to attach to the back of the existing pedal then connected under the platform to second pedal beside the forward part of the factory pedal. No new holes or alterations to the factory setup.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #11  
I've got the dual pedals on my little subcompact, and have the use of the single pedal on a BX22. When shopping, I preferred the dual pedals, and did not like the feel of the single pedal.

But after 158 hours on my machine, and around 20-30 hours on the BX, I prefer the single pedal by a large margin, and find myself wishing that my machine also had the single pedal. I find my foot and calf get much less fatigued at the end of a long day on the machine with the single pedal than the dual pedals.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #12  
I'm so used to the single pedal that I don't even think about it when operating the BX23.
It seems to have become a natural movement with no jerky stops or direction changes.
I had dual pedals on my last mower and I know all to well about hitting the wrong pedal /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Volfandt
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #13  
I hated the single pedal initially. Had the dual pedals on the little JD and that's what I was use to. Like them both equally now. The single pedal is great for backing. It will come to you over time. Been said a zillion times before, but most of us don't put our full boot print on the pedal. That's where I went wrong initially. I heal/toe the adjacent floor and the pedal. If I'm going forward the toe is on the pedal and the heal is on the deck. Vice versa.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup
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#14  
Bugstruck and anyone else, I am not sure I followed your style of operating the pedal but I do want to learn the best way first. Forward, your heel is on the platform and your toe on the pedal. Then to backup...? I think I can use the lessons /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
 
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Oldgoat if your trying to rest your whole foot on the pedal and you don't have a size 16 foot then that is why it is uncomfortable and feels weird.
You place your toe on the pedal and heel on the deck for fwd driection and heel on pedal and toe on deck for backin up.

I have only had Kubotas and I could see how a two pedals side by side system could be real interesting to get used too since the single pedal makes sense where the ft. part is fwd. and rear is back up.
There is less mental thought for direction changes and more on the work at hand.
I'm sure one can get used to either system with practice.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #16  
We also have the L3400HST!! The single pedal system is awesome. When your turned a liitle in the seat your foot is cocked sideways anyways. Your toe still catches the front and heal catches the back of the pedal because of its canted design. I really prefer it to the two pedal. Especially when your looking back or over the side while working.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #17  
I'm jumping in with everybody else on this. I *really* wanted the two pedal setup on the JD3320, but after 30 hours on my B3030 I'm very happy with the single setup, (especially when backing up and looking behind me) and would probably prefer it at this point.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #18  
I use both, I like both, I don't have a strong opinion either way. I think unless you have a leg issue that makes one or the other difficult, you will quickly learn to accomodate it. Much like one learns how to run a Bobcat skidsteer where your hands operate the hydrostatic controls and feet do the loader. I will say that the single pedal did "probably" help me out once when I had my front tires on my L48 fall through a culvert while pointed downhill. I could not keep my tractor from falling in other then instantly I hit the reverse pedal which slowed my decent giving me enough time to get my loader down and anchor me. Had it been a twin pedal, the chance of hitting just the reverse pedal probably would not have happened, I could have just as easily hit the forward pedal. It was a delicate situation. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #19  
I bought an L3400HST. It is a nice tractor but I still do not like the single HST pedal as well as the two pedal systems on the larger models (competitors) I test drove while shopping. After looking at the L3400 setup, it should not be difficult to modify the tractor to add a second reverse pedal without altering the factory setup. But then, if I could accomplish this, I am wondering if someone has not already come up with a kit that could be purchased. Does anyone know of such a kit?
I 100% agree jd 2 pedal control is so much more comfortable to use.
 
/ Converting single HST pedal to two pedal setup #20  
I'm on my 2nd JD and prefer the two pedal system any day over the Kubota. I have gotten used to the single pedal system, but I use it differently than most. My foot never leaves the floor. I just swing my toe under the forward pedal and lift up to go backwards. works really good for me and my foot never gets tired.

I did have an incident once with my BX that would have never happened with the JD. I was sitting on the BX after starting it and had to get off to get something. When I jumped back on, I stepped on the reverse pedal which is in the middle of the floor. If I was not holding onto the steering wheel, I would have went over the hood and landed on my head.

Dave
 

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