VTEK VT1 backhoe attachment

[deezler]

Yanmar is a very well know name. For years they were the contract builder for JD small machines (650,750,850,950,1050, and others in these series). Not sure about the newest release of JD small tractors, but the previous models since Yanmar stopped building the entire tractor, have included tye Yanmar engines.
Yanmar engines are very popular in the Marine world, as well as in the trucking reefer world.
An it is a well established Japanese company.
Now as for the loader and backhoe, I have no ideals. However if it is a 3ph hoe without lots of steel to connect it from the 3ph to the front of the tractor (most compact tractors only have the transmission/transaxle for a frame from the engine back) expect to break the tractor—from lift arm mounts to bell housing and sll points in between.

Yeah for sure, I am very familiar with Yanmar as a brand. But that model is clearly an internationally focused one, it doesn't match their USA offerings whatsoever. Check their website and see.

Find Your Tractor | YANMAR Tractor

Find the right-size tractor for any job with our selection of reliable sub-compact YANMAR tractors.

www.yanmartractor.com

 

[careyo63]

Yeah for sure, I am very familiar with Yanmar as a brand. But that model is clearly an internationally focused one, it doesn't match their USA offerings whatsoever. Check their website and see.

Find Your Tractor | YANMAR Tractor

Find the right-size tractor for any job with our selection of reliable sub-compact YANMAR tractors.

www.yanmartractor.com

Local. BTW. FB. posted they was closed today. Place is Nice!!

 

[CoyPatton]

Yeah for sure, I am very familiar with Yanmar as a brand. But that model is clearly an internationally focused one, it doesn't match their USA offerings whatsoever. Check their website and see.

Find Your Tractor | YANMAR Tractor

Find the right-size tractor for any job with our selection of reliable sub-compact YANMAR tractors.

www.yanmartractor.com

Limited production run of 2 model years, so a lesser number available right from the get go! I’m not saying it is a popular model, but ig is a 20 series tractor so lots of parts from similar 10 series will interchange. As well as parts available from aftermarket sources. But my post was in regards to Yanmar in general being chinese. While I would like to be a hoe owner, I won’t being doing a 3 ph without a whole lot of supporting construction. Cost probably means a separate piece of equipment makes as much sense. If your time has any value to you….

 

[California]

The models that Yanmar sold here when they previously had dealers here, are pretty much orphans ignored by this second generation of US Yanmar dealers that Yanmar set up 20 years later.

My US Yanmar, YM240, is a near twin to the Japan-market YM2000. The modifications are for US safety specs - turn signals, the throttle is pull rather than push to slow down, and an overrun clutch in the PTO. Both of these version were sold worldwide so NAPA-quality replica parts are widely available, they're like old VW or Jeeps in terms of parts support.

My other Yanmar YM186D, still has the dealer decals from when it was sold new locally. Neither of these are listed on the Yanmar-US website. Both have superb quality Owner, Parts, and Overhaul manuals that were issued by Yanmar-US and remain avalable as reprints on Ebay.

If the VN refurbs were properly priced as simply old tractors they would be a good buy for someone who can support it with mailorder parts. But sometimes the nicely painted refurbs are claimed to be recent models and priced accordingly - buyer beware. (There is a single legitimate Yanmar-approved US firm doing legitimate rebuilds, that's another story).

Yanmar-US brochure for my 1980 YM240.

 

[rScotty]

Key word in your question is "looks". If you are in AZ and looking at the seller in Gilbert, be careful.

Yeppers. You did the right thing by asking here first. Much as I like Yanmars, buying a Vietnamese rebuild and painted Yanmar assembled from old worn tractors is not a good place to start. And Vtek is sketchy quality at best. You can do much better.

My advice is to go to TractorHouse.com and look around at 25 go Kubotas with loaders. You can buy a 20 year old Kubota or similkar in decent shape with 1000 to 2000 hrs for $10K with shipping. Probably find one locally. Then you will also find that you can get parts and advice anywhere as needed.

Plus you will have something of value you can sell if you need to.

Rent a backhoe if the job needs one. But most jobs can be done with a loader and a good 3pt hitch on a 25hp 4wd tractor. Even if you rent a hoe a few times you will still have enough left over to buy a used 3pt backhoe if one comes up......they are not all that popular or expensive. Kelly made some of the best ones. So did Yanmar.
Luck,
rScotty

 

[sd455dan]

Looking to purchase a Yanmar 2310D that comes with a VTEK loader and backhoe attachment priced at $15k. After looking around there is hardly any information in regard to the VTEK loaders. Actually almost non existent. Are they even worth trying? I have 1.5 acres and am looking to do some trenching, spreading gravel, landscaping with the machine, but don't want something that will break and crap out of luck for parts. The machine itself looks to be in great condition. Any thoughts or feedback would be greatly appreciated!

VTek's are imported from Vietnam

My FIL's 2310D has an Allied loader and has been a very good match.
I prefer the Koyker, Allied etc. The frame itself and rear axle reinforced connections look less robust on the Vtek pics i have seen. No idea on the Backhoe. Not all steel is created equal either.

 

[sd455dan]

The base tractor is a Yanmar. A top quality brand, a competitor to Kubota, also made in Japan.

But. Some you see here in the US with a museum-quality paint job are on their second or third life. This model is now some 45 years old. These old ones are typically sold used after a working life in Japan. Then taken to Vietnam and likely put in service there for a second lifetime. Then finally 'refurbished' by a sweatshop that is not permitted to buy genuine Yanmar parts.

Yanmars are fundamentally near bulletproof, Deere uses their engine in some models. But these 40 year old recons with the nice paint jobs are a gamble. Many are excellent.

But you won't know until you have run a 'recon' for a while if some critical replacement part was made by handing a kid a chunk of steel - or a part off some other brand of tractor - and a file to carve it.

The loader and backhoe are brands fabricated in Vietnam to put on these recons. With no factory parts offered. You may have to adapt common US stuff as things wear out over the years.

That dealer specializes in importing these recons. Ask and see if he tells you the actual year model for that Yanmar 2310D.

Somewhere in the old TBN way back machine threads.?.. There was EBC?? Can't remember exactly, but he refurbed Japanese CUT's and he travelled to Japan to buy rebuildable Yanmars, Kubotas, Zennohs, Isekis etc.

I remember one picture of the ones he rejected that were going to Vietnam to be refurbished and the pic showed some totally clapped out machines - way, Way worse than the China Shanghai I bought recently , One was a massive burn victim and he said that one is going to Vietnam to be refurbed and be resold in the US as well.

Paint, tires, and new decals is the Very least important thing to check out with a fine tooth comb on a refurbed tractor.

ps. people also forget what these tractors were used for in the home market before being exported and that many times is long term use in Rice Paddies. Check the transmission and axle oils for sure. Water intrusion will always displace lubricating oil and left sitting is hard on bearings etc.

 

[bmaverick]

Yeppers. You did the right thing by asking here first. Much as I like Yanmars, buying a Vietnamese rebuild and painted Yanmar assembled from old worn tractors is not a good place to start. And Vtek is sketchy quality at best. You can do much better.

My advice is to go to TractorHouse.com and look around at 25 go Kubotas with loaders. You can buy a 20 year old Kubota or similkar in decent shape with 1000 to 2000 hrs for $10K with shipping. Probably find one locally. Then you will also find that you can get parts and advice anywhere as needed.

Plus you will have something of value you can sell if you need to.

Rent a backhoe if the job needs one. But most jobs can be done with a loader and a good 3pt hitch on a 25hp 4wd tractor. Even if you rent a hoe a few times you will still have enough left over to buy a used 3pt backhoe if one comes up......they are not all that popular or expensive. Kelly made some of the best ones. So did Yanmar.
Luck,
rScotty

I too would agree with your direction going with the Kubota out that way.

The reason being, the Yanmars in the AZ region might all come from the one source offering VN recons. People could of bought them, got stuck with them and will dump them. It gives Yanmar a bad reputation due to the recons painted make-overs.

 

[California]

Somewhere in the old TBN way back machine threads.?.. There was EBC?? Can't remember exactly, but he refurbed Japanese CUT's and he travelled to Japan to buy rebuildable Yanmars, Kubotas, Zennohs, Iseikis etc.

I remember one picture of the ones he rejected that were going to Vietnam to be refurbished and the pic showed some totally clapped out machines - way, Way worse than the China Shanghai I bought recently , One was a massive burn victim and he said that one is going to Vietnam to be refurbed and be resold in the US as well

EFC Equipment, Everything For Christ. Looks like they are now a feed and pet-food store.

Buck's photos would scare anyone away from a VN refurb. He said they might as well have just turned a container on end, and poured pieces of incomplete tractors into it.

His post I remember, described when he briefly sold Jinma Chinese utility-size tractors. He said all the setup and then the warranty work needed on those after he sold them and when they came back broken, wasn't worth the trouble. While the quality used Yanmars he bought in Japan only needed a minor refurb. A seat, maybe a muffler or tires, thorough cleaning and a total Periodic Maintenance (fluids & filters etc).

And contemporary with that a representative of Jinma posted that their tractors weren't really intended for what we expected, rather, they were for weekend lawn mowing by the suburban landowner etc rather than farm use.

 

[sd455dan]

The models that Yanmar sold here when they previously had dealers here, are pretty much orphans ignored by this second generation of US Yanmar dealers that Yanmar set up 20 years later.

My US Yanmar, YM240, is a near twin to the Japan-market YM2000. The modifications are for US safety specs - turn signals, the throttle is pull rather than push to slow down, and an overrun clutch in the PTO. Both of these version were sold worldwide so NAPA-quality replica parts are widely available, they're like old VW or Jeeps in terms of parts support.

My other Yanmar YM186D, still has the dealer decals from when it was sold new locally. Neither of these are listed on the Yanmar-US website. Both have superb quality Owner, Parts, and Overhaul manuals that were issued by Yanmar-US and remain avalable as reprints on Ebay.

If the VN refurbs were properly priced as simply old tractors they would be a good buy for someone who can support it with mailorder parts. But sometimes the nicely painted refurbs are claimed to be recent models and priced accordingly - buyer beware. (There is a single legitimate Yanmar-approved US firm doing legitimate rebuilds, that's another story).

EFC Equipment, Everything For Christ. Looks like they are now a feed and pet-food store.

Buck's photos would scare anyone away from a VN refurb. He said they might as well have just turned a container on end, and poured pieces of incomplete tractors into it.

His post I remember, described when he briefly sold Jinma Chinese utility-size tractors. He said all the setup and then the warranty work needed on those after he sold them and when they came back broken, wasn't worth the trouble. While the quality used Yanmars he bought in Japan only needed a minor refurb. A seat, maybe a muffler or tires, thorough cleaning and a total Periodic Maintenance (fluids & filters etc).

And contemporary with that a representative of Jinma posted that their tractors weren't really intended for what we expected, rather, they were for weekend lawn mowing by the suburban landowner etc rather than farm use.

Not sure on Jinma utility sized tractors, I do remember that was one of the complaints originally, that they kept stretching the frame and widening the axles to up size HP without using heavier castings larger shafts bearings etc.
I think the actual chassis upsize change only happened with the 554,(55 HP) but have never actually seen one of those. I used to know a guy with a Jinma 284 and he had already owned it for 11 years and he was happy with it, but I believe he ordered it himself as a crate kit.

 

[California]

I used to know a guy with a Jinma 284 and he had already owned it for 11 years and he was happy with it, but I believe he ordered it himself as a crate kit.

Your friend seems lucky! Maybe go in with him on a lottery ticket.

I briefly considered a Jinma, then found the elderly Yanmar locally so I got that. 2004.

3RRL's posts seem to be a caution that some Chinese tractors turn out to be great, others must have been built on a Friday.

Scroll down through 3RRL's post history. He had owned a machine shop and later made some of the parts he eventually needed for major repairs after some 500 hours on his Jinma 284 and Kama 554.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/search/16457137/?t=thread&c[content]=thread&c[users]=3RRL&o=date

 

[sd455dan]

Your friend seems lucky! Maybe go in with him on a lottery ticket.

I briefly considered a Jinma, then found the elderly Yanmar locally so I got that. 2004.

3RRL's posts seem to be a caution that some Chinese tractors turn out to be great, others must have been built on a Friday.

Scroll down through 3RRL's post history. He had owned a machine shop and later made some of the parts he eventually needed for major repairs after some 500 hours on his Jinma 284 and Kama 554.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/search/16457137/?t=thread&c[content]=thread&c[users]=3RRL&o=date

Kama 554, Never seen one of them in person either.

In the Rhino / Shanghai 554's defense I have been asked over the years to do and did take care of jobs the 2310 D just could not do at least 5 times and also when the Yanmar was down for repairs. About a 2 mile drive each way for the Rhino. I have had to work on it, but like the Yanmars after 30 + years of service including living outside, any older tractors have earned their keep when they keep working for decades
The Yanmar 2310D has not ever had to cover for the Rhino. A lot of that is because of weight,tire size, FEL Capabilities and power.
The Yanmar is a bit older as well. Tach / hour meter broke after 2000 hours on the Rhino a few years ago. Both Fords I have owned the hour meters quit at over 4000 hours in late 1970's.

Would I trade For a Vietnam refurb 2310D with new tires and decals?

No.

I think the OP would be very happy on his size acreage with a Fredrick's Yanmar with backhoe.

ps. thar cabbed a Y359A would be right up there as a top choice for a new 55HP .

 

[California]

I think the OP would be very happy on his size acreage with a Fredrick's Yanmar with backhoe.

Agree!