Used Tractor Help

[brh444]

Hey all,

Trying to decide between a 2013 Kubota B3200HSD with 72in deck and loader 203 hours ($18,000) and then a JD 2025r 2020 with 120 hrs and 60in deck and loader ($20k ask). I have 6 acres with 5 that would need tending too. Parts a the yard around the shed/garage/house with another section that gets left to grow for brush hog and it's a hill. Not like a crazy hill but it's an incline. Would be needing for landscape work and then when it snows to help with that and box blade to tend to my driveway also. Are these both wise choices? Ideas on price and should I go with more HP like 30 or above or is 23-25 good? Appreciate everyone's help.

 

[Roadworthy]

I personally prefer 25 hp or less. Above that they add computers, diesel particulate filters, etc. The simpler it is the less to go wrong. I find for my 10 acres the size is about perfect.

 

[Mtsoxfan]

Above...
You can try pricing a lower HP new tractor. You might be surprised on affordability.

 

[jyoutz]

I think a 25 hp tractor would be appropriate for the intended use and size of property. Something like a Kubota L-2502 or equivalent other brand. But not a subcompact 25 hp, something with more weight, frame and tire size like I suggested.

 

[oldnslo]

Have you sat on or operated either of the tractors? You might find that one of them just fits you better.

What dealers are in your area? Will they even talk to you if you visit them?

Of the two above I would probable look harder at the Deere being 7 years newer but that is just me.

 

[brh444]

I have both dealers close within a 10 mi radius too. I have not operated either one. I can go check on the 2025r pretty easily but the other is older and not close to me sadly.

 

[anomad]

Look for the Ask Tractor Mike YouTube channel if you haven't found it. He is in Missouri also and has a lot of good advice.

I bought my used CK3510 sight unseen and have some minor regrets. I did have a great buying experience and paid for delivery. So do as they said above and kick the tires before you sell a kidney. Also agree with the above that a "big" tractor with the 25 horse is a real sweet spot. You can turn them up too if you are into that.

Read up on the pros and cons of belly mowers vs. rear finish mowers if you haven't already. Neither of them are bad, but one might work better for you than the other. I prefer the rear finish mower.

 

[Carl_NH]

Welcome to TBN BRH444 - either tractor will do what you want, the 2013 Kubota is more HP, 32 vs 25 on the JD but the JD is 7 years newer. The 2013 Kubota 32 HP unit is "pre emissions" meaning no regen etc, which is desirable.

Believe JD Loader is around 800Lbs capacity, and Kubota is 1100 lbs (LA 502) but Kubota may not be the SSQA setup in 2013, whereas the JD probably has the JD QA setup loader.

As others have said, take a look at the Kubota L2502 - its 25HP, but heaver/larger frame, 535 loader and stouter tractor and in mid $20's price range new - you can find "package deals" for these units.

Best of luck and enjoy the search and selection, and make sure you ride a few too.

 

[outdoorsman123]

We picked up a JD 2025r for my niece. Great tractor. Nice and sturdy, nice size powerful enough for yard stuff. She also has a 48" snowbloyon the back. She needed something that would allow her to clean the hard packed wind blown snow from her driveway where a walk behind snowblower wouldnt do much. This thing handles it with ease.
No emissions stuff to worry about on it either.
The Kubota is a nice tractor as well, the extra hp may be helpful but for yard uses it may not be helpful.
The Deere is newer and should handle everything it sounds like you need. Similar reasons why we chose the Deere for my niece.

 

[dodge man]

I’ve owned a JD2025r for going on 7 years now, I had a Kubota BX 2350 before that.

Both companies have strong support, a good dealer network and a good reputation.

The Kubota has more power and a stronger loader. It’s about the same weight as the JD which isn’t surprising since Kubota is known for building lighter tractors. Less weight can be an advantage or a disadvantage depending on the situation. Some dislike the forward and reverse pedal on Kubotas. I prefer the JD setup but I got along with Kubota setup fine.

Being a 2025r owner I’ll recommend that. No emissions equipment on it. I love JD’s setup for the quick connect on the loader. I only have forks and a loader bucket for the front of mine. The biggest advantage is the JD autoconnect deck. I timed taking the mower deck off and on and it’s less then 3 minutes either way. It does have to be setup correctly though.

The price? I paid just over $20k for mine in 2019. It’s a 2025r, 60” mower deck, end loader, pallet forks and fluid in the rear tires. That was out the door, taxes and all. That was pre Covid and prices have shot up since. My gut reaction is the asking price is fair to good. It’s low hours, I’ve got about 600 on mine. I can’t comment on the Kubota price, I don’t know what they are going for.

 

[brh444]

Thanks all! Much appreciated!

 

[brh444]

I’ve owned a JD2025r for going on 7 years now, I had a Kubota BX 2350 before that.

Both companies have strong support, a good dealer network and a good reputation.

The Kubota has more power and a stronger loader. It’s about the same weight as the JD which isn’t surprising since Kubota is known for building lighter tractors. Less weight can be an advantage or a disadvantage depending on the situation. Some dislike the forward and reverse pedal on Kubotas. I prefer the JD setup but I got along with Kubota setup fine.

Being a 2025r owner I’ll recommend that. No emissions equipment on it. I love JD’s setup for the quick connect on the loader. I only have forks and a loader bucket for the front of mine. The biggest advantage is the JD autoconnect deck. I timed taking the mower deck off and on and it’s less then 3 minutes either way. It does have to be setup correctly though.

The price? I paid just over $20k for mine in 2019. It’s a 2025r, 60” mower deck, end loader, pallet forks and fluid in the rear tires. That was out the door, taxes and all. That was pre Covid and prices have shot up since. My gut reaction is the asking price is fair to good. It’s low hours, I’ve got about 600 on mine. I can’t comment on the Kubota price, I don’t know what they are going for.

Even the newer 2025's do not have the emissions on it?

 

[Carl_NH]

No emissions on anything 25 HP and under - so the manufacturers are putting these "25" hp engines in larger frames (like the Kubota 2502)

The "in quotes" 25 HP is because many of these same engines are in larger machines with a turbo etc. and produce 35 HP. Check out the CI, and bore and stroke you will see. The JD 2025 has a 24 HP Yanmar engine and they are very good engines.

 

[kenmac]

just note. JD has their own way of connecting front attachments. I believe the majority of other tractors use the skid steer quick attach type.
I personally don't care for belly mowers on tractors, but that's just my personal opinion and I'm not the one buying it

 

[dodge man]

Even the newer 2025's do not have the emissions on it?

Yep Carl is correct, 25hp and under don’t need egr or dpf. No separate emissions equipment.

 

[rScotty]

I have both dealers close within a 10 mi radius too. I have not operated either one. I can go check on the 2025r pretty easily but the other is older and not close to me sadly.

These are both good tractors, but they are very different in size, seating, controls, tire size, and particularly in how they are going to feel to you when you operate them.
It's not just HP...they both make good power & have similar transmissions

But there is still quite a difference between a sub-compact and a small utility tractor.
I think you need to go visit both dealers and will be curious what you think after that.

Hopefully the JD dealer will have that exact model. The Kubota dealer may not, but should have a small utility tractor close in size. Tractors don't change all that rapidly.

You can use Tractordata.com to compare specifications & photos on the B3200 & 1025r.
good luck,
rScotty

 

[jyoutz]

These are both good tractors, but they are very different in size, seating, controls, tire size, and particularly in how they are going to feel to you when you operate them.
It's not just HP...they both make good power & have similar transmissions

But there is still quite a difference between a sub-compact and a small utility tractor.
I think you need to go visit both dealers and will be curious what you think after that.

Hopefully the JD dealer will have that exact model. The Kubota dealer may not, but should have a small utility tractor close in size. Tractors don't change all that rapidly.

You can use Tractordata.com to compare specifications & photos on the B3200 & 1025r.
good luck,
rScotty

For reference, the older L3200 is similar in size to the current L2502 and L3303. And you make a good point: the tractors that the OP is comparing aren’t similar in size or capability. The JD is a subcompact and the Kubota is a compact tractor.

 

[dodge man]

These are both good tractors, but they are very different in size, seating, controls, tire size, and particularly in how they are going to feel to you when you operate them.
It's not just HP...they both make good power & have similar transmissions

But there is still quite a difference between a sub-compact and a small utility tractor.
I think you need to go visit both dealers and will be curious what you think after that.

Hopefully the JD dealer will have that exact model. The Kubota dealer may not, but should have a small utility tractor close in size. Tractors don't change all that rapidly.

You can use Tractordata.com to compare specifications & photos on the B3200 & 1025r.
good luck,
rScotty

The OP is looking at a JD 2025r not a 1 series. The 2025r is considered a compact although a small one.

 

[Forky]

I don't care for the JD 2025r. We have one at our church camp with the 60" mower and front snow blower. It is nothing more than an oversized lawn mower.
My L2501 is a real tractor compared to the JD.
I also don't like the oil engine capacity on the JD which is less than 3 quarts, compared to 6 quarts capacity for the Kubota.... both 25 horse power.
Less than 3 quarts takes a pounding, in my opinion.

 

[rScotty]

The OP is looking at a JD 2025r not a 1 series. The 2025r is considered a compact although a small one.

Yes, you are right. My mistake & thanks for the correction. I also said in that post that the transmissions were equivalent, but they are not.....2 range vs 3 range.... This must be my day for misteaks....

But I still think the OP would be well served to simply go to both nearby dealerships, sit on and perhaps operated a few tractors, and then get back to us with his impressions. Then we could be more helpful.