RayIN
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i was on our vol. fire dept. for 17 yrs. I'm now 83. Sadly the bad stuff does come back_. Some nights, no sleep.
How to save someone trapped in a grain bin
Sprinkler Fitter
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Sorry it affects you, I’m hoping it doesn’t ever get to me. Wife’s dad was a state trooper, he drank allot I think because of what he saw for 35 years.
Retired from it 22 years ago, the last 2 years we had 3 dead in a house fire each year. No smoke alarms in one of those fires, we did what we could do but we didn’t save them.
RayIN
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One particular call bothers me most. It was a mobile home fire, fully engulfed when the pumper arrived.
When the fire was out we were inside putting out smoldering spots.
One fireman said "there's a soft spot in the floor here".
He was standing on a victim that was covered with debris.
Very few citizens know a mobile home/trailer fire can go from ignition to fully-engulfed in 4 minutes.
Smoke detectors are vital to living to tell about getting out of a mobile home/trailer fire!!!
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Smoke and CO2 detectors. Simple devices that save lives. Same with fire extinguishers. Be smart, have them available and use them. More importantly, train your family in their importance and use!
RayIN
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That's another fallacy. A small (< than 10#) extinguisher is designed to suppress fire while you are exiting the structure, not to put the fire out.
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Sad because so often I find smoke alarms disabled… as a property manager I care more about your family than the parents or so it seems.
Sprinkler Fitter
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We had a car fire out in the rural area, older guy, he and his wife were at our wedding because they were neighbors of the wife’s dad, he drove out to where he and his grandkids used to fish, opened the trunk and poured gasoline over his head and got back into the car.
I went to school with the grandkids, visitation at the funeral they asked if he suffered and how he looked. 30 years later and I can still see it and smell it.
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charlessenf
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". . . he drank allot . . . because of what he saw for 35 years."
Post hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin for "after this, therefore because of this") is a logical fallacy that incorrectly assumes a causal relationship between two events simply because one happened after the other, confusing temporal sequence with causation.
Unlike 'the military draft,' policemen are self-selected - e.g. an all volunteer force. It is always worth asking "Why did you want to become a ______________?"
Grunt, Combat Infantryman, Prison Guard, ICE Road Trucker, Thoracic surgeon, . . .
As, I suspect, the responses will illuminate aspects of the personality more likely attributable to causality than the profession selected.
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I was one of the lucky ones, I survived a grain silo incident. I wasn't sucked in by grain flow, but it almost got me anyway. I was in college and helped re-roof a seal store silo, kind of like a harvestor silo but made of galvanized steel. We got the roof on but it was supposed to be caulked from the inside. I agreed to come back and do that. So one day, by myself and no one knew I was coming, I climbed up to the silo, which was full of corn, and entered the silo, standing on the corn, and proceeded to caulk the roof. I started feeling funny and knew there was some kind of problem so I exited the silo and immediately felt better, I was probably running out of oxygen. It didn't feel like you feel when you hold your breath, I was probably just seconds from blacking out and I would have died but fortunately I was able to get out of the silo. Well, like a dummy I held my breath making several trips back in the silo to finish caulking the roof. But it was very obvious to me that a person should never enter a grain bin or silo without someone knowing what you are doing, and I never ever did that again.
