Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #801  
A friend of mine always drives Lincolns. He said the dealer he uses told him last year that he was dropping his dealership because Lincoln planned to go all electric and he couldn't afford the investment to service the EVs. Of course, the plans may have changed with the recent lowered projections for EV sales.
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #802  
If anyone looks it up:
"Dealerships are installing new lifts for electric vehicles (EVs) because traditional lifts cannot safely or effectively accommodate the unique weight, structure, and battery placement of EVs. Specialized EV lifts are necessary to prevent serious damage to the car and ensure technician safety."

Not for ICE cars & trucks they've been working on for years. New equipment and training for mechanics, in turn passed on to the consumer.
That makes more sense. Still interesting they chose 50T lifts, though. What EV is tipping the scales at 100,000 pounds? That's tri-axle dump truck territory!
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #803  
It must be a flop. Sales are down and not much hope of that changing.

We can debate why, and that may be informative, but it does not change reality.

I have not seen posts from Gale Hawkins for a while. Wonder what he thinks about the “death spiral” now.

A few months ago we purchased a Toyota Highlander. Was hoping the next vehicle would be an EV but it still does not make sense for us. Maybe next time.
 
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/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #805  
A friend of mine always drives Lincolns. He said the dealer he uses told him last year that he was dropping his dealership because Lincoln planned to go all electric and he couldn't afford the investment to service the EVs. Of course, the plans may have changed with the recent lowered projections for EV sales.
Our local GM dealer dropped Buick for the same reason with Buick going all EV by 2030. Their 3 locations elected not to do the mandatory upgrades to service any GM EVs. Would have cost $500,000 per location. You have to sell a lot of EVs to recoup that overhead. In a small town that isn't happening.
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #807  
Plus some cities have also put future bans in place for ICE sales…

My city has a policy not to permit new fuel stations, repair shops, etc…
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #808  
Plus some cities have also put future bans in place for ICE sales…

My city has a policy not to permit new fuel stations, repair shops, etc…
Why? Are there too many fuel stations?

None in the town I live in but the next town is close enough.
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #809  
Why? Are there too many fuel stations?

None in the town I live in but the next town is close enough.
No… it’s a policy not to support ICE industry.

Oakland is just one of several that have declared war on ice and not just vehicles but also blowers and trimmers…
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #810  
It must be a flop. Sales are down and not much hope of that changing.

We can debate why, and that may be informative, but it does not change reality.

I have not seen posts from Gale Hawkins for a while. Wonder what he thinks about the “death spiral” now.

A few months ago we purchased a Toyota Highlander. Was hoping the next vehicle would be an EV but it still does not make sense for us. Maybe next time.
As long as Tesla is in business there won't be an EV death spiral.
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #812  
Plus some cities have also put future bans in place for ICE sales…

My city has a policy not to permit new fuel stations, repair shops, etc…
I really have no problem with that. This is exactly how this country was built to work, local decisions, allowing people to vote with their feet, rather than federal rulings that throw us all into the same pot. If I ever did live in Oakland CA, it would be just one more reason for me to relocate out of that place!
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #813  
I believe he was referring to Gale always talking about the ICE death spiral. Maybe you were trying to be facetious?
No. Just misunderstood. Now I understand the "death spiral" referred to by Gale.
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #814  
I really have no problem with that. This is exactly how this country was built to work, local decisions, allowing people to vote with their feet, rather than federal rulings that throw us all into the same pot. If I ever did live in Oakland CA, it would be just one more reason for me to relocate out of that place!
I guess I don’t get the appeal of living in California, but we all have our own opinions.
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #815  
I guess I don’t get the appeal of living in California, but we all have our own opinions.

Yup. California's great for a week or less in my experience. My son and his wife lived there while he was in the USMC, and we spent a lot of time visiting. Fortunately, they left once his enlistment was up.

If you've never lived anywhere but a highly taxed high cost of living environment, I'm sure CA is great.

Once those people who live in CA (or NYC, CHI, etc.) get to experience a lower cost of living with a quality of life that is "close enough" then opinions start to change.
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #817  
One reason: the weather is much nicer than Minnesota.
Exactly. I've said it a million times, at least from the standpoint of weather and scenery, California is one of the greatest places on earth! But you'd have to get rid of most of the Californians, before I'd ever be willing to live there, present company aside. :p
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #818  
The truck has 5 drive modes. One of them is specifically for slippery conditions. That, combined with the weight of the EV and the AWD system will make this a CHAMP in snow and ice this winter. That's my prediciton.
Hate to rain on your otherwise good post… but vehicle weight does not help at all in ice. It actually hurts performance on ice, a bit.
 
/ Is the Cyber Truck a Flop? #820  
Hate to rain on your otherwise good post… but vehicle weight does not help at all in ice. It actually hurts performance on ice, a bit.
Correct, on hard ice. But it helps in snow, slush, and other normal winter conditions, though.
 

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