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Looooong ago - got ahold of some black locust. On an ancient homestead. Cut and used for firewood. Took the largest trunk and cut out a few boards on the bandsaw. Finished them up with my planer.

Glued it all together and made a coffee table bowl for a friend. That's as close as I've ever got to milling wood.
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!!
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Thanks Scott. Ken, sometimes simple is best. I like the fact you basically used hand tools to make your table. The winery table I followed was a rough table. Probably passed down from when it was all hand tools.

Sorry HH for stealing your thread. Jon
All good!! Loving the furniture inspo!! One of these days I will have more time to do such things, and the plan for this mill is to stock material for such projects.
I have made a few things I am proud of. I made this table out of local cedar from my buddy's saw mill. And I have made nice end grain cutting boards for everyone in my family (this is one I made my wife a few years ago). A couple years ago I made my brother a bow saw.
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   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #43  
All good!! Loving the furniture inspo!! One of these days I will have more time to do such things, and the plan for this mill is to stock material for such projects.
I have made a few things I am proud of. I made this table out of local cedar from my buddy's saw mill. And I have made nice end grain cutting boards for everyone in my family (this is one I made my wife a few years ago). A couple years ago I made my brother a bow saw.
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Nice job!!! Did you do the blade yourself also? I read an article about old time woodsmen who would go into the woods for the winter with a piece of steel stick and make everything right there in camp.
 
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Nice job!!! Did you do the blade yourself also? I read an article about old time woodsmen who would go into the woods for the winter with a piece of steel stick and make everything right there in camp.
No, that would be cool though. It is a Bahco I picked up online.
 
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Reflections of a fledgeling sawmiller.
Things are really ramping up nicely at the mill. My first goal is to mill shelves for the house. I want lots of nice chunky floating shelves. So far we have 2x12 red oak slabs, and some 1.5x11.5 black walnut slabs cut. This week have 2 nice white oak logs that will be milled up. These will take the longest to dry so if I can get 15 or 20 cut up and stacked/stickered I can get them to the kiln. The kiln is only about 2 miles from where I work so that is convenient. After that it is time to mill some Ash for trim (the 4 white ended logs in the foreground). This is starting to get addicting, I see so many possibilities.

The System:
It is a bit of a grind getting things going and getting a system dialed so you are not tripping over your own waste and product. I have a rack for the cast offs and slabs I will not be using. It is not huge and 4 or 5 hours of milling will fill it up quickly. From the rack I take it to a staging area out of the way that friends and acquaintances can come cut it up for firewood (more on that later). As far as product is concerned I want to take it directly off the mill and put it directly on pallets. The fewer number of times I have to touch it the less work it will be. So ample stickers and a pallet system. Still in the works but I have a good plan.

Helpers:
It also helps that I have a few buddies who are very interested in help with milling, because it is significantly easier with 2 people. So I am going to ride that wave until it crashes. I know eventually the thrill will wear off for these people. The idea is to continue to groom new folks into the fold. I know many like minded people who would come out a handful of times for a nice payout in castoffs. The beauty of this is there is always plenty of decent wood that comes off the mill that might not suit my purposes but would be perfectly fine for someone else's projects. It is great to see a newbies eyes light up when you slice open a log and all the beauty is exposed. You can see the wheels turning in there head about the possibilities of this 1x15 slab that just peeled off the log. I hope these cast offs will keep my helpers happy.
Waste:
It does not take long for waste slabs to pile up. I have a list of 15-20 people lined up waiting to come pick this up for firewood. As mentioned earlier I have a staging area for these slabs to be stored until someone can come pick them up. I want to make this as easy as possible so this area is right by the front gate just next to the road. They can park right next to it. I think I will do the chainsawing. It takes nothing to run a saw through these piles every 16 inches to make nice fire length wood. The last people who came just left it in pickup truck bed lengths to saw it up later, works for me! I think I will insist on doing the majority of the sawing. It is scary watching some people handle chainsaws, last thing I need is for somone to bury one in there calf. Sawdust!!! Holy crap this thing makes some sawdust! I don't have a great idea for the sawdust other than tossing it over the edge. I need to google some ideas about what to do with sawdust.

Last thing is about snow and the melting there of. Man, I don't know how you guys up north do it. Snow leaves a MESS as it slowly melts. When it rains here it is muddy for a day then things dry up. This snow has the road a mudy mess, has my mill area a muddy mess. I guess that is why they call it mud season, cause it is muddy for a month huh? RANT OVER!

Thanks for listening. Any ideas, comments or tips are welcome. Have a great day!
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   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #46  
This is starting to get addicting, I
Oh, yeah! I have never done crack cocaine, but suspect saw milling is much worse!
I don't have a great idea for the sawdust other than tossing it over the edge
I use it between the rows in my strawberries. It keeps the weeds down and seems to keep the slugs at bay. I am slowly moving toward raised beds, either traditional or Hugelkultur style, and will also use it between those structures.
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #47  
IF you have 15 or 20 people wanting slabwood for firewood, then NO chainsawing on site! You haul the slabwood away and cut it someplace else!

That will take care of a lot of potential chainsaw problems.

SR
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #48  
Ok, tips from Northern Michigan. Sawmill is resting in the storage barn for the winter here. I can move it to the sawing area when needed. I mill in nice weather, no rain. Sawdust pile behind the mill is cleaned up as needed and placed over the bank or on paths. (Same with planer off cast) first thing I mill is a couple of 6"x6" base stringers to stack my good wood on. Then mill some stickers for between the good wood. My stacks of stickered wood is approximately 40" in deep, log length wide and about 30 to 40" tall. About the max I can lift with my B26TLB forks. 2 stacks 40" deep on the forks fits on my 7ft wide trailer deck if taking to the kiln.

My first batch of logs were almost to big for my Timbery 100 mill and my loader. The logs were a pain to turn on the deck with 1 pevee. These were red and white pine, 13ft long. Wife helped with removing 2" thick slabs from the log and placing on the forks. Then the tractor mover load to the base stringers next to the mill. And then we stacked and stickered. The off cast material was placed on another set of stringers for other to pick up. Bucket for tractor on the ground received all the scraps going to the burn pile, to be burned with first snow.

I have also cut some nice oak from the firewood pile. Also a cherry removed from my daughter's. The cherry and oak were dried in a kiln. Most of the pine and ash are air drying, covered by roofing metal. The ash came off the property, mostly as dead falls. Jon
 
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I don't want others chain sawing on my property. Take the slabs and cut them the length they want. They can cut at their leasure and I don't have to use my miling time for their benefit. Now if they want you to cut to length, charge them for yuor time. I want my firewood to be 20" long, not 16" Fits better in the wood boiler. Jon
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #50  
I am going to bring my mill to my mother's house this spring and saw out about 6000 feet of pine. I found somebody who will take the slabs but I plan to cut them to 4' because we don't want him running chainsaw there. I am not sure what I'll do with the sawdust, but should be able to lose that someplace.
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #51  
Reflections of a fledgeling sawmiller.
Things are really ramping up nicely at the mill. My first goal is to mill shelves for the house. I want lots of nice chunky floating shelves. So far we have 2x12 red oak slabs, and some 1.5x11.5 black walnut slabs cut. This week have 2 nice white oak logs that will be milled up. These will take the longest to dry so if I can get 15 or 20 cut up and stacked/stickered I can get them to the kiln. The kiln is only about 2 miles from where I work so that is convenient. After that it is time to mill some Ash for trim (the 4 white ended logs in the foreground). This is starting to get addicting, I see so many possibilities.

The System:
It is a bit of a grind getting things going and getting a system dialed so you are not tripping over your own waste and product. I have a rack for the cast offs and slabs I will not be using. It is not huge and 4 or 5 hours of milling will fill it up quickly. From the rack I take it to a staging area out of the way that friends and acquaintances can come cut it up for firewood (more on that later). As far as product is concerned I want to take it directly off the mill and put it directly on pallets. The fewer number of times I have to touch it the less work it will be. So ample stickers and a pallet system. Still in the works but I have a good plan.

Helpers:
It also helps that I have a few buddies who are very interested in help with milling, because it is significantly easier with 2 people. So I am going to ride that wave until it crashes. I know eventually the thrill will wear off for these people. The idea is to continue to groom new folks into the fold. I know many like minded people who would come out a handful of times for a nice payout in castoffs. The beauty of this is there is always plenty of decent wood that comes off the mill that might not suit my purposes but would be perfectly fine for someone else's projects. It is great to see a newbies eyes light up when you slice open a log and all the beauty is exposed. You can see the wheels turning in there head about the possibilities of this 1x15 slab that just peeled off the log. I hope these cast offs will keep my helpers happy.
Waste:
It does not take long for waste slabs to pile up. I have a list of 15-20 people lined up waiting to come pick this up for firewood. As mentioned earlier I have a staging area for these slabs to be stored until someone can come pick them up. I want to make this as easy as possible so this area is right by the front gate just next to the road. They can park right next to it. I think I will do the chainsawing. It takes nothing to run a saw through these piles every 16 inches to make nice fire length wood. The last people who came just left it in pickup truck bed lengths to saw it up later, works for me! I think I will insist on doing the majority of the sawing. It is scary watching some people handle chainsaws, last thing I need is for somone to bury one in there calf. Sawdust!!! Holy crap this thing makes some sawdust! I don't have a great idea for the sawdust other than tossing it over the edge. I need to google some ideas about what to do with sawdust.

Last thing is about snow and the melting there of. Man, I don't know how you guys up north do it. Snow leaves a MESS as it slowly melts. When it rains here it is muddy for a day then things dry up. This snow has the road a mudy mess, has my mill area a muddy mess. I guess that is why they call it mud season, cause it is muddy for a month huh? RANT OVER!

Thanks for listening. Any ideas, comments or tips are welcome. Have a great day!View attachment 2187760
Sounds great! I'm glad it is working out for you. I can only imagine how addictive it wood be...😉

Personally, I think that sawdust makes great compost and soil amendment. While you can till it straight in, the sawdust does present a significant nitrogen demand (chicken waste helps). I prefer to spread it as a mulch, or as a thin enough layer that it can compost for a year or two and the use it. Im not wild about using it as animal bedding indoors due to the dust, and black walnut sawdust or shavings are highly toxic to horses. Personally, while I can see the attraction of tipping over the edge, I wouldn't waste it, and it is a fire risk. I do know a couple of sawdust piles that ignited from the heat of decomposing sawdust.

For liability reasons, I would not let anyone chainsaw on the property. They are guaranteed not to be pros, or they would be doing it themselves elsewhere, nor have enough PPE.

You might consider some IBC tote frames or something similar to hold the firewood size slab pieces. I would use the tractor to hold the slab ends cut to size and load in the tote. Or get fancy and build a chopping system. Someone posted a nice video of a slick father and son firewood operation a while back. (Basically a chainsaw powered chop saw and a conveyor system dumping into totes. If you have a grapple, you could get fancy with it. You could easily dump a whole tote at a time in a pickup.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #52  
I bought a Harbor Freight Mill about 10 years ago and had a lot of fun with it. I made a subframe for it and an extension so I could cut 16' boards. You can only cut about 9 1/2' boards the way it comes.
I moved and wasn't using it so I sold it and then I missed it so I bought another one! Did the subframe again.
Haven't built anything special but I can if I want to. :) I cut the boards in the pic for a friend who made a second floor office in his building.
If you go to forestryforum.com there is a sawmill board with some SERIOUS Sawyers and tons of info.
 

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   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!!
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IF you have 15 or 20 people wanting slabwood for firewood, then NO chainsawing on site! You haul the slabwood away and cut it someplace else!

That will take care of a lot of potential chainsaw problems.

SR
Yes, I think this is the best option. I might chunk it into 3-4' sections for them for easier loading. But yes, I think the rule might have to be no one runs a saw except me. 15-20 was a bit of an overestimate, I just counted only 11. But still
Personally, while I can see the attraction of tipping over the edge, I wouldn't waste it, and it is a fire risk. I do know a couple of sawdust piles that ignited from the heat of decomposing sawdust.

For liability reasons, I would not let anyone chainsaw on the property. They are guaranteed not to be pros, or they would be doing it themselves elsewhere, nor have enough PPE.

You might consider some IBC tote frames
@ponytug thanks for the feedback

I did not think about the possibility of the sawdust combusting. That happened to a material yard down the road from me with a pile of mulch, the pile is still smoldering 2 months later.

I love IBC totes for firewood storage but I don't ave enough of them to spare any for an operation like that. I will just take the ol saw to the pile of slabs once it gets big and let the people come fill their trucks up.
 
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I got REALLY lucky and scored a nice haul of flame box elder. A lot of the flame is in the last 4 inches of the log but if you slice it up right you get some beautiful boards.
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That's really pretty- nice cutting job! I haven't seen flame box elder for years. I hope that it turns into something really special for you.

All the best,

Peter
 
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That's really pretty- nice cutting job! I haven't seen flame box elder for years. I hope that it turns into something really special for you.

All the best,

Peter
Thanks @ponytug This is a pallet of shelves that I am going to bring to the kiln Thursday. White oak, black walnut and the boxelder in 2", 1.75" and 1.5 inch thicknesses. They will be floating shelves in our newly remodeled house.
 
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It's been a productive month at the mill! My shelves are at the kiln, should be ready next week.
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I started milling the ash trim for my house. WOW! This is addicting! Sawing into a log and cutting it up to find all the hidden treasures. These 1x6 are all from the same log. Beautifully knot free blonde clear wood on the outside and this amazing dark figured wood along the pith. The logs I'm using for this were dying trees so I took them down to use for my trim. Got 3 really nice saw logs from it and a bunch of firewood. Interested to see how much they yield. What do you see in the figured wood?

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   / Got my sawmill up and running!!! TIME TO MILL!!! #58  
thats Hawkins hollow in the first picture 2nd and 3rd board!

Really n=cool what the wood exposes when cut - we had a lot of logs milled - pine and oak and the red knot pine 14" wide on the floor and ceiling is pretty neat. This is the summer house we built 2 years ago with the wood from the property.
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thats Hawkins hollow in the first picture 2nd and 3rd board!

Really n=cool what the wood exposes when cut - we had a lot of logs milled - pine and oak and the red knot pine 14" wide on the floor and ceiling is pretty neat. This is the summer house we built 2 years ago with the wood from the property. View attachment 2649386
WHOA! That 14" pine flooring is RIDICULOUS!!!!
 
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WHOA! That 14" pine flooring is RIDICULOUS!!!!
I helped refloor an old, old (1700s) home near @Carl_NH with 16" boards, pegged. It looked amazing at the end, but a total pain to do as nothing was flat or square.

All the best,

Peter
 
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