New Toyota Tundra’s Recalled for Spun Crank Bearing

[sixdogs]

I wonder what impact the Chevron Supreme Court Decision will have on all the EPA type laws that can now be challenged?

 

[5030]

Why I will NEVER buy a new vehicle, ever.

 

[Hay Dude]

Toyota’s reputation for toughness and reliability goes back to WW2 with production of the first Land Cruiser in 1951. Land Cruisers are built for developing countries without decent roads. That’s why you see them in all the old National Geographic films and why they’re still the vehicle of choice in Africa, South America, and Asia today. They used to be tough, simple, and easy to repair.

The US doesn’t get the diesel versions unfortunately but the 5.7L V8 in the gas LC is the same engine that’s in the previous gen Tundra and Lexus LX570. The Lexus GX460 is known as the LC Prado overseas and is a very durable vehicle as well. Can’t think of a more durable vehicle than a diesel 70 series Land Cruiser.

Toyota has always had a very conservative approach to building vehicles. They never have the latest tech. They let the big 3 figure what works and what doesn’t then incorporate what works.

I had a ‘76 Toyota Land cruiser and the 258 6 cylinder burned a quart every 4-500 miles. It only had about 50,000 miles on it. Spent $3,000 to rebuild it.
You couldn’t kill it off road, though.
Friend of mine has the Lexus version-said it was very similar to the Land Cruiser. I would seriously consider one of those. Comparable to a Tahoe.

 

[5030]

Early Land Cruisers had a bad habit of rusting while sitting on the dealer lot. They were tremendous rusters.

Good thing about the oil burning engine was, you could yank it out and replace it with an American made inline 6 and live happily ever after or until the body corroded entirely away.

I owned one as well, a red one. Rode like a tank but could go anywhere. Bought it new. I believe I paid around 3100 bucks for it. Wish I had it today, it was a kidney buster however.

Owned a 41 Willis Overland as well, which is what the LC copied.

 

[sd455dan]

Early Land Cruisers had a bad habit of rusting while sitting on the dealer lot. They were tremendous rusters.

Good thing about the oil burning engine was, you could yank it out and replace it with an American made inline 6 and live happily ever after or until the body corroded entirely away.

I owned one as well, a red one. Rode like a tank but could go anywhere. Bought it new. I believe I paid around 3100 bucks for it. Wish I had it today, it was a kidney buster however.

Owned a 41 Willis Overland as well, which is what the LC copied.

They were built heavier than many other brands. An FJ 40 outweighed a same year Jeepster by about a thousand pounds. Have owned both.

 

[5030]

Wish I had one today as they are very collectable and very capable. Gotta give the Japanese credit for copying an iconic American 4wd utility vehicle. Too bad the sheet metal they used corroded quickly.

You cold drop in a small block V8 as well...

I really liked my Overland more. Problem was, it was severely underpowered with it's 4 banger and it was 3 on the tree with a dashboard overdrive and top speed with a tailwind was around 50 mph. Would go anywhere sane or insane as well, just went slow. Solid front axle and rear on leaf springs and like the Land Cruiser, rode like a Sherman Tank.

When Toyota came out with their modern day Cruiser, I wasn't impressed at all and far as I can tell, it was basically a flop anyway.

 

[sd455dan]

Wish I had one today as they are very collectable and very capable. Gotta give the Japanese credit for copying an iconic American 4wd utility vehicle. Too bad the sheet metal they used corroded quickly.

You cold drop in a small block V8 as well...

I really liked my Overland more. Problem was, it was severely underpowered with it's 4 banger and it was 3 on the tree with a dashboard overdrive and top speed with a tailwind was around 50 mph. Would go anywhere sane or insane as well, just went slow. Solid front axle and rear on leaf springs and like the Land Cruiser, rode like a Sherman Tank.

When Toyota came out with their modern day Cruiser, I wasn't impressed at all and far as I can tell, it was basically a flop anyway.

It's funny, I actually had more rust issues with the Jeeps especially around the edges of the floor steel. Those were Kaiser built Jeeps though.

 

[5030]

I bought only one new Jeep, was a CJ7 and it was a total turd. Never again for me. I reside just north of Toledo Jeep (20 miles) and you will never find a Jeep in this driveway, ever. Stupid expensive and poorly built.

 

[Blue Mule]

Toyota has always made junk. They've just had a better P.R. campaign than the domestic brands.

I recall the 1980s Toyota trucks that were already rusted when they unloaded them from the ship. The 22R engines lasted a long time.....because they made absolutely no power. Hard to tear up an engine when there's no compression going through it. Junk.

Then the 1990s came around, and Toyota trucks had a new feature called the folding frame. The entire truck would fold in half, presumably to save space in the garage. Customers didn't like the feature at all, so Toyota had to buy back entire trucks at 15% above market value.

Then the 2000s... the all new V6 ate head gaskets, the all new V8 ate emissions parts, the plastic cargo boxes would crack under hard use, the new Tundra in 2007 had crank shafts failing, rear differential failures, etc.

By the 2010s they finally had most of their issues sorted out, so what do they do now? Reintroduce fresh junk for the 2020s! Naturally! Entire engines being replaced in Tundra, transmissions blowing up in Tacomas, electrical issues, even one YouTube video of a front differential exploding on a snowy trail. Junk.

Toyota deserves massive credit. They were able to convince the U.S. public that they had a superior product when in fact the exact opposite was true.

[politics removed]

 

[RayIN]

No irony at all. Never will be a Toyota anything in this driveway. Just Fords, GM's and Dodge's.

Hummf. I've been a Chevy man all my life. I bought this 2013 Silverado 5.3 new. It had 86,xxx miles on it and began leaking oil from the pan gasket and oil filter adapter housing fit to block.
I retorqued the pan bolts and housing bolts; no joy.
Took it to the Chevy/GM dealer and they quoted me $3,600 to pull the engine, and replace the gaskets.
I said no thanks, I'll just drive it this way and add oil as required. Perhaps the oil puddles it leaves will be good advertisement for GM.

 

[5030]

Never had a pan leak on any of our vehicles. I did have to replace the pan on my '97 7.3 Turbo diesel because it developed a corrosion hole in the front from road salt up here however but none of the pans have ever leaked. Sounds like the gasket wasn't applied when the engine was built to me. Poop happens sometimes. No reason to abandon a brand because of assembly error far as I'm concerned. That can happen to any brand, foreign or domestic.

 

[LightningCamaroGuy]

LS oil pans are know to start leaking. I've not had one start leaking on me, but I know people who have, and it's a PITA to fix if you're a DIY'er. Ford EB (especially the GEN1 2.7L EB which was notorious for developing leaks) are known to sometimes develop leaks as well.

 

[Renze]

Even class 8 trucks now. Kenworth already announced as part of it meeting the new greenhouse gas emissions that are being rolled out, only 10% of their new trucks will be able to be ordered with a manual transmission.
This is getting ridiculous.

Manual transmission is already phased out in Europe, to make the numbers in the test cycle improve.

Daf (Paccar) built a... Well is it an X15 ? Daf calls it a Paccar PX15 i think. 660hp, with improved torque over the X15 . Tested in Australia by Daf, they worked together on this Paccar specific version.

Anyways, Daf sells it in Australia with the bigger engine. If they would sell it in Europe, the theoretical average fleet consumption would go up and they would be heavily fined.

Meanwhile they miss out on the heavy haulage market where the Germans offer the same 660hp and the Swedish another 100 more. Just crazy...

 

[5030]

If you do heavy haul like I used to do prior to retirement, a servo controlled auto don't work. We always ran 18 speeds simply because an auto cannot split the necessary gears when running way over gross on permit loads plus they return terrible fuel mileage.

Even my farm truck is an 18 speed. I would never own an auto shift, against my grain actually and my personal vehicles are all standard transmissions as well.

Clutches for me are optional anyway. Only time I clutch any of them is when I stop and start. Other than that, I float all the gears. Same with my farm tractors. Never replaced a clutch ever and I don't remember the last time I adjusted any either.

If I told you what my 3406 Cat in my Western Star long nose conventional is putting to the rear wheels, you'd fall out of your chair. Lets just say quite a bit north of those engines. It ain't T4 either so every shift produces smoke, just the way I like it. Guy down the road has a Freightshaker cabin over with a 1693 TA Cat in it and it's a rocket ship loaded or empty. The 1693 is my favorite engine followed by a 3406 B model. Of course his and mine have Jakes on them and straight pipes too.

 

[Paystar]

If I told you what my 3406 Cat in my Western Star long nose conventional is putting to the rear wheels, you'd fall out of your chair.

I wouldn't, I ran E9 V8 Mack's.

 

[5030]

It's really all in the injection pump and older Mack's and Cats have the same proven (but now antiquated by emission controls) pump design. Interestingly, my Kubota's also share the same pump design and are also easy to 'turn up' and I did, well my Kubota tech did. Didn't bet stupid with it, only 10 ponies.

 

[Renze]

If you do heavy haul like I used to do prior to retirement, a servo controlled auto don't work. We always ran 18 speeds simply because an auto cannot split the necessary gears when running way over gross on permit loads plus they return terrible fuel mileage.

Maybe Eaton just doesnt have its software right. Volvo and Scania build their own automated manuals, up to 780hp and up to 250 ton GCW in heavy haul spec. They do incorporate a crawler gear, for positioning at low speed, or taking off from hills.

ZF builds their AS-tronic and TraXon transmission with offroad mode, so it shifts at a higher rpm so a 50 ton 5 axle dumptruck doesnt fall still in the sand trail while shifting.

Clutches for me are optional anyway. Only time I clutch any of them is when I stop and start. Other than that, I float all the gears. Same with my farm tractors. Never replaced a clutch ever and I don't remember the last time I adjusted any either.

Without power assist clutch, i prefer to leave the pedal alone too, shifting with the throttle is easier.

Though nowadays you only see Eatons on historical truck shows in Europe, they are no longer on the option list since the late 80s and synchromesh with air assisted clutch pedal has become the standard for over 40 years here.

 

[Hay Dude]

Love the Allison Automatics for hauling off road. One less chance to f-up a gear or foot slips off the clutch crossing a ditch or through soft ground.
I’ll never go back to a manual transmission.
Life’s too short to row gears while working a truck.
Autos are great. Just jump in and drive. Prove your manhood in other ways.
Although I did just find a Pete 335 tandem with a Cat & Eaton 10 speed and a 24’ flatbed. Perfect for large square bales…. wish it was an auto…

 

[5030]

The part you miss is, Scania is not sold here (yet) because they are not EPA certified and they are all cabin overs and COE's haven't been popular in this country for decades. Last COE was the Freightliner 'Argossy', I believe and it was a flop. Things may change at some point but not in my lifetime or yours.

First tractor I owned was a cabin over and I was never thrilled about being first on the scene in an accident, with the radiator cap. never was. Interestingly, my long nose Star is more maneuverable in tight situations than my cabin over ever was and same applies to the conventional company tractors I drove for over 25 years. So long as the wheel cut is set correctly, they maneuver just fine.

Never had an air assisted clutch, never needed one either.

 

[5030]

Love the Allison Automatics for hauling off road. One less chance to f-up a gear or foot slips off the clutch crossing a ditch or through soft ground.
I’ll never go back to a manual transmission.
Life’s too short to row gears while working a truck.
Although I did just find a Pete 335 tandem with a Cat & Eaton 10 speed and a 24’ flatbed. Perfect for large square bales…. wish it was an auto…

I would never buy any unit with a 10 speed. Only thing they are good for is pulling a lightly loaded dry box and if it's a Super 10, run away and don't look back. The 'Super 10's' are interfaced with the throttle and the throttle must be completely dropped before you can change gears. Consequently, you cannot float the gears at all.

Again, the 10 speeds are dry box, light load units plus the reverse is somewhat high so backing will be a chore and hard on the clutch as well.

I'd never have one and I've driven them before. Crappy tranny.

I agree the Allison's are good in a HD pickup application but again, you have to keep up on maintenance or your wallet will bet appreciably lighter, real quick as they are expensive to work on and must be repaired by an Allison certified repair facility, not some shade tree wrench. Always use Allison fluid and Alison filters as well.