Kubota Seat Safety Switch

[rScotty]

Instead of inching the tractor forward and back to hook to an implement, would telescoping 3pt arms accomplish the same thing?

 

[Captain Dirty]

Or a dolly under the implement to move the implement (a few inches) to the tractor.

My chipper skids rest on a plywood sheet on a pallet. I often twist the chipper by horsing it by the infeed chute or prying it with a 4' bar to connect the pins.

 

[jmc]

Ive inched the tractor forward and backward by plunging the loader bucket lip vertically into the ground and using the curl function.

 

[gstrom99]

Ive inched the tractor forward and backward by plunging the loader bucket lip vertically into the ground and using the curl function.

That's a great idea! and safer than using the HST.

 

[dstig1]

If you are going to put in a bypass switch, the wiser move would be to use a momentary type switch so it is only bypassing the switch while you hold it down. When you release it, back to normal. Adds a safety factor so you don't leave it on by accident. So hold down the switch and tweak the pedal to adjust. Not commenting on the safety factor as being right in the path of the tires while doing this seems rather risky to me...

 

[bdhsfz6]

Ive inched the tractor forward and backward by plunging the loader bucket lip vertically into the ground and using the curl function.

Great idea for 3pt attachments but not possible when adding a SSQA implement to the FEL.

 

[gstrom99]

Great idea for 3pt attachments but not possible when adding a SSQA implement to the FEL.

Yeah but... When I'm putting on the SSQA attachment, I'm in the seat to control the movement, in control of the loader raise/lower and tilt. Not needed when we're talking about the loader.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

I always just grab back tire, tractor off in neutral and move it back & forth as needed. It's easy on level ground.

 

[bdhsfz6]

Yeah but... When I'm putting on the SSQA attachment, I'm in the seat to control the movement, in control of the loader raise/lower and tilt. Not needed when we're talking about the loader.

Unless you're like me and have to stand on the deck to line up the SSQA attachment. Doing so kills the engine when I touch the HST pedal.

 

[charlessenf]

I would like to install a bypass seat safety/cutoff switch for my 2023 Kubota L4060 ROPS tractor. I do not want to permanently disable it, just be able to switch it off under certain limited circumstances, but keeping it engaged most all the time. I have attached a photo showing the wiring and location of the plunger style disengagement switch, and the blank spot to install a bypass switch. My question is, where do I tap into the wires... just after the plunger switch, or after the gray connector in the line...or do I disconnect the gray connector and jump it over to the bypass switch? Thanks.

The switch is either an SPST N.O. or an SPST N.C. "Momentary Contact" switch that is N-'normally' O-'open' or C-'closed' unless pressed.

My money is on SPST N.C. e.g it is normally closed or "on" if you will, as long as your load's in the seat. When you leave the seat, a the switch opens and shuts off the engine.

In such a case, you simply need to connect a pair of wires to the existing (Momentary Contact) switch and to your 'add-on' SPST Toggle switch.

Normally Open VS Normally Closed Switches

• Momentary switch
  Only turns on when it's actuated, and automatically returns to its default position when released. Momentary switches are also known as non-lock switches.
• Toggle switch
  Has a manually operated lever that moves from one position to another, and latches into place until moved back.

 

[Mudfarmer]

I just "disabled" the seat safety switch on my B2650 by tucking the plastic lever under the wire connecting to it. Easy on and off. I will untuck it when the grandkids are learning to operate.

 

[CoyPatton]

The reason I'd like to have a bypass switch is not about using the PTO. If I am hooking up implements, either on the front or back end, I have limited visibility to get things lined up properly, but I do have a better view when on the ground. I used to be able to move the HST pedal by hand to accomplish this on my previous Kubota, but that is because I had permanently bypassed the seat switch. I don't want to go that far with this new tractor. As it is I have to get off, the tractor dies, I look at the lineup, get back on, start up the tractor, move it, get off, tractor dies.... This is not a PTO issue with me, I don't have a chipper or a generator, or the like. So page 89 is of no use to me. But hey, if there is another page I'm missing I'll be happy to go there.

Following this explanation of what you want to do, I suggest you find the power in wire for your seat switch and the power out wire from your seat seat switch. You want to splice in (3 wires) on each side of your seat switch. Your added switch would continue power along the system when energized and when it is not energized, the seat switch should function as it does now.

 

[Shady oak]

I will do that when connecting an attachment when I need an inch of movement - my hydrostatic tractor is very user friendly this way. I have over 30 yrs owning and operating experience. I know the risks and the precautions needed.

Concur. Since everyone on here has not had the experience of growing up with a 2 cylinder JD, they don’t appreciate the simplicity and relative safety of just a slight nudge on a foot treadle. Since it’s needless to discuss the importance of keeping one’s feet and hands clear of the tractor and implement, I won’t mention that. Speaking of which, the other day when hooking up my wood chipper to my JD955 the person assisting me kept sticking their hand in between the implement and the 3 point arm. This resulted in numerous "GET YOUR HAND OUT OF THERE! gentle reminders.This of course led to an extended conversation on the relative intelligence of the two participants!

 

[scootr]

Concur. Since everyone on here has not had the experience of growing up with a 2 cylinder JD, they don’t appreciate the simplicity and relative safety of just a slight nudge on a foot treadle. Since it’s needless to discuss the importance of keeping one’s feet and hands clear of the tractor and implement, I won’t mention that. Speaking of which, the other day when hooking up my wood chipper to my JD955 the person assisting me kept sticking their hand in between the implement and the 3 point arm. This resulted in numerous "GET YOUR HAND OUT OF THERE! gentle reminders.This of course led to an extended conversation on the relative intelligence of the two participants!

If you do stuff you get hurt. Hopefully you recover and learn from those mistakes. Eventually you start looking for how an accident could happen and that's when the accidents will stop. But that level can take a lifetime to reach. At 70 yrs I'm still working on it

 

[Shady oak]

If you do stuff you get hurt. Hopefully you recover and learn from those mistakes. Eventually you start looking for how an accident could happen and that's when the accidents will stop. But that level can take a lifetime to reach. At 70 yrs I'm still working on it

Important to know what you don’t know. And, always leave yourself an out!

 

[CoyPatton]

If you do stuff you get hurt. Hopefully you recover and learn from those mistakes. Eventually you start looking for how an accident could happen and that's when the accidents will stop. But that level can take a lifetime to reach. At 70 yrs I'm still working on it

I have to agree. It was not me but a cousin that is about 10 years older than I. My cousin has been around equipment his entire life. However this past summer, while working of his tractor, he step beside the cockpit and started his tractor. Unfortunately it was in gear. One leg got tangled in the wheel when he tried to jump away. It twisted him around numerous times before it ran against something that stopped its movement. He has had a knee replacement and when recovers gets to look forward to a hip replacement all on the leg that was tangled into the wheel. He admits it was his silliness, but it can happen very quick.

 

[jmc]

That's a great idea! and safer than using the HST.

Thanks, but I don't know if it's an original idea. I mighta got it from some other TBN member long ago!

 

[scootr]

I have to agree. It was not me but a cousin that is about 10 years older than I. My cousin has been around equipment his entire life. However this past summer, while working of his tractor, he step beside the cockpit and started his tractor. Unfortunately it was in gear. One leg got tangled in the wheel when he tried to jump away. It twisted him around numerous times before it ran against something that stopped its movement. He has had a knee replacement and when recovers gets to look forward to a hip replacement all on the leg that was tangled into the wheel. He admits it was his silliness, but it can happen very quick.

I hope your cousin gets well soon. I've never owned a stick shift tractor. I do have a dangerous piece of equipment with a stick. It's fuel injected and it has zero safety Nannys. You can bet your bottom dollar I check the shift lever before I reach in and turn the key

 

[olenjohn]

I'm not talking about or have an issue with the PTO, which I never mentioned. I only want to be able to move the tractor a bit forward and back while standing on the ground to line up implements on the front end.

So to simplify life, you want the ability to run over yourself? Or worse yet, your child. It does work. I’ve seen it done.

 

[olenjohn]

The reason I'd like to have a bypass switch is not about using the PTO. If I am hooking up implements, either on the front or back end, I have limited visibility to get things lined up properly, but I do have a better view when on the ground. I used to be able to move the HST pedal by hand to accomplish this on my previous Kubota, but that is because I had permanently bypassed the seat switch. I don't want to go that far with this new tractor. As it is I have to get off, the tractor dies, I look at the lineup, get back on, start up the tractor, move it, get off, tractor dies.... This is not a PTO issue with me, I don't have a chipper or a generator, or the like. So page 89 is of no use to me. But hey, if there is another page I'm missing I'll be happy to go there.

So to simplify life,, you want the ability to end life, by running yourself over? Or worse yet, someone else? It does work. I’ve seen it done.