PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney

/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #1  

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In my area most farmers don't use them saying "i don't have anything to do close to the PTO while it spinning" or "if my ass is not in the sit, the PTO is not engaged".

What says you, the ppl i trust?


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/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #2  
I don't have them on my pto driven implements. 5 of them...

I do treat the PTO like it wants to kill me... I stay away from it.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #3  
Short story on why to leave it. One of my cattle producers(I'm retired Extension) was feeding round bales, cutting the twine and hanging it on the tail light. As he got on the tractor, putting the twine around the tail light, one end hit the turning PTO shaft (no equipment attached, didn't know the PTO was on). The twine wrapped around his thumb, quick thumb removal. The tractor was just idling, but it was that fast. Doctor reattached the thumb, but he was out of commission for awhile. A shield may have prevented it, will never know, but.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #4  
What do you mean by shield? The cover that goes over the male PTO stub on the tractor or the shield on the PTO shaft between the tractor and implement?

Is cover on the stub no not in use

Shield on the shafts yes.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #5  
I'm guessing the shield over the male pto output on the tractor.
Mine flip up when you're attaching the PTO shaft but they never stay up.
I've had my fingers banged by them several times.
I remove them. I reinstall them when I sell or trade in a tractor just for liability issues.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #7  
I kept the metal shield over the PTO stub..

I also keep the plastic PTO Shaft shield on, including what covers the u-joints.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #8  
Shield over the stub came with the tractor and no way would I operate the tractor without it in place.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #9  
On my 4105, the shield above the PTO shaft stays up, on its own, when needed to attach an implement. Otherwise it's down.

I see no reason to remove it as it protests the shaft & tines from any inadvertent damage.

I also use the plastic shaft cover on the PTO shaft when it's not in use = a wee spray of lanolin lubricant ensures that the tines don't rust.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #10  
I would say it depends on the implement, On a post auger I operate it while on the ground, I need to be there to make sure it's lined up properly. Some I would never get off the seat while it's operating, some I need to get down to see it in operation... Some shield are annoying or in the way of shear pins and what not... make your own risk assessment and judgement on each implements instead of a blanket statement, after all its going to be your arms or body, your kid, wife, or dogs not mine... If it's not damaged or in the way why removed it ?
 
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/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #11  
Shield over the stub came with the tractor and no way would I operate the tractor without it in place.
Why? My prior tractors all either never had one, or had them removed by prior owners. My new 3033R has one, and I find it really frustrating, as it doesn't flip up far enough to really easily access the quick-disconnect collars on some of my PTO shafts. I was actually thinking about removing it.

As to guards on the PTO shafts themselves, all of my present implements have them. They do no harm, so I leave them. But I'd also not worry at all about running an implement that lacks this guard, as I'm not sure why I'd ever be anywhere near a running PTO shaft in the first place.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #12  
Why? My prior tractors all either never had one, or had them removed by prior owners. My new 3033R has one, and I find it really frustrating, as it doesn't flip up far enough to really easily access the quick-disconnect collars on some of my PTO shafts. I was actually thinking about removing it.

As to guards on the PTO shafts themselves, all of my present implements have them. They do no harm, so I leave them. But I'd also not worry at all about running an implement that lacks this guard, as I'm not sure why I'd ever be anywhere near a running PTO shaft in the first place.

There is a few cases when it happens. These are three reason I can think of, there is some wood splitter that runs on a PTO. Post auger, I need to get down to lined it up and adjust the tilt to make it straight as it digs and removing dirt around the auger bit in order to have the least amount off dirt in the hole. Squares baler often looking at the knotter as it ties to see what it's doing or some other adjustments.. or simply for diagnosis purposes.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #13  
There is a few cases when it happens. These are three reason I can think of, there is some wood splitter that runs on a PTO. Post auger, I need to get down to lined it up and adjust the tilt to make it straight as it digs and removing dirt around the auger bit in order to have the least amount off dirt in the hole. Squares baler often looking at the knotter as it ties to see what it's doing or some other adjustments.. or simply for diagnosis purposes.
Yeah, I guess I should have acknowledged that my comments were unique to the implements I own, not all situations. I had considered the log splitter, but hadn't even thought of post-hole augers. All of my PTO-driven implements (mower, spreader, sprayer, snowblower, etc.) are operated only from the driver's seat, which obviously affects my perspective.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #14  
Depending upon the implement in question has a lot to do with the guards on the pto shafts. I like them on brush hogs and flail mowers as it helps keep tall grass and weeds from wrapping around them. My snow blowers one has it one doesn't I'm not close to them while they are turning so it's not a concern, the one with the old style steel guard that has to telescope with the shaft has gotten ice froze in while stationary which can be a pain in the butt. Not bad when still connected as I can run the pto while lifting and lowering the blower which breaks the ice, it is another story when it freezes after being disconnected, it makes it a complete pain to hook up and it has come close to being removed and tossed. On the farm the most important one is the one on the self unloading wagons as you are always close to the running pto while adjusting the unloading speeds. And the Ag bagger.
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Balers and choppers you are normally only close to moving parts while adjusting, trouble shooting or lubricating them.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #15  
In my area most farmers don't use them saying "i don't have anything to do close to the PTO while it spinning" or "if my ass is not in the sit, the PTO is not engaged".

What says you, the ppl i trust?
Why would you not use them? I don’t see anything to be gained by not using them myself.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #17  
I have both - cover over the PTO stub and cover over the PTO shaft. Both serve a purpose. Why knowingly eliminate either.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #18  
Wow! That is one beautiful 1066! Restored, or just well cared for?
She was a gussied up "stock" pulling tractor in a previous life, turned the pump done considerable for working her. Makes a good road hauling tractor and she's real good on the bagger, she's pushing 175-190 hp on the pto as she sits.
 
/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #19  
Why would you not use them? I don’t see anything to be gained by not using them myself.
I don't have any shields, all my implements are used and didn't come with any. I'm not going to buy something that I personally don't think I need.

First thing I did to my brand new tractor, removed the PTO shield... Don't worry, Nobody, other than myself, drives the tractor.
 

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/ PTO Safety Shield, Yei or Ney #20  
I have two PTO shafts with shields and one without.

Doesn't really bother me having the shields there. I don't know if the shields are less intrusive over here or not but certainly not the end of world that would make me remove them. I can easily hook those shafts without any sort of fight.

If happens to get damaged beyond repair, I'll probably won't replace them regardless.


As far as the tractor PTO stub shaft, the Branson still has the cover there, fixed too. Non foldable. The only reason I had to trim it diagonally about 25 mm on top and 50 mm on the bottoms was because I hooked an attachment with the lower pins too narrow and the side link pin put a nice sized tear on the cover. Way too much work to fix the tear.

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The little Agria has no covers at all on either of the two PTO shafts, fairly exposed too. One spins all the time, the other has just gear drag.


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