Starlink

[mikester]

I hate to hear this. Hopefully the outlier, rather than the norm. Keep us posted.

A week later Starlink concluded I needed a new system since they no longer have gen1 router parts. Two weeks later I received a new Gen2 system.

Apparently the gen2 systems have an integrated router now. My old system the dish is still useable with an RJ45 connection to my own router and I don't have to use the provided starlink router. I think I will keep using my gen1 dish until it dies before hooking up the new gen2 system.

Is there any benefits to the gen2? Is it faster? Or is it just going to be a PITA when I swap it over and it dies leaving me with zero internet for 2 weeks...

 

[drumminj]

You can use your own router with a gen2 system by putting the Starlink router in bypass mode. However you need the ethernet adapter and their router still needs to be connected to the system (this is how I run).

 

[BufordBoone]

Can you run both the Starlink router and a router of your own or does the Starlink router have to be in bypass mode if you want to have another router?

 

[drumminj]

Can you run both the Starlink router and a router of your own or does the Starlink router have to be in bypass mode if you want to have another router?

I believe you can run both, but they'd be two separate wireless networks. I vaguely recall both being up and running while I was initally setting things up.

Of course you have potential wireless interference issues running two separate networks

 

[ponytug]

Can you run both the Starlink router and a router of your own or does the Starlink router have to be in bypass mode if you want to have another router?

Yes, you can have both routers active, with one caveat.

I believe you can run both, but they'd be two separate wireless networks. I vaguely recall both being up and running while I was initally setting things up.

Of course you have potential wireless interference issues running two separate networks

This is the caveat: you need to have the non-Starlink router running its own network with a network address of something other than 192.168.1.NNN, and for the other router to be using the Starlink router as its WAN link (uplink).

Of course, you can also just put the Starlink into bypass mode. For gen 2 Starlink routers, that means that you would need a Starlink Ethernet adapter.

All the best,

Peter

 

[LouNY]

Can you run both the Starlink router and a router of your own or does the Starlink router have to be in bypass mode if you want to have another router?

Yes, you can. I have the ethernet adapter and it goes to my Netgear router.
My switch and hardwired equipment is plugged into the Netgear router and then I have the Starlink wireless as well as the two Netgear wireless networks to choose from.

 

[newbury]

I have not seen NC improving rural internet speeds. They spent a fortune on landlines in an eastern NC county, for a small number of users. They could have paid for Starlink for decades for what was spent. My county, and I don't think it is different that other counties, has awful Internet speeds. Before Starlink the fastest DSL we could get was 1.5 mega bits per second. Cell service was better but at a much higher cost. I think we were paying $100-120 for a cell service that quit working right when Starlink arrived. Just in time it was.

Must be political.
Northeast Mississippi around Tupelo was that way ~7 years ago.
slow DSL.
Than all of a sudden they started offering fiber from 2 sources - The phone company or the electric company. It started out at $50 for a 100 MBPS Download & Upload Speed (Unlimited Data) from either.
The electric company strung fiber on power poles and I think it's finished doing the entire area. Last I heard the phone company has a while to go. I went with the electric company as soon as they got to me. Price has crept up to $55 for the 100GPS level.

 

[BufordBoone]

Yes, you can. I have the ethernet adapter and it goes to my Netgear router.
My switch and hardwired equipment is plugged into the Netgear router and then I have the Starlink wireless as well as the two Netgear wireless networks to choose from.

Thanks, to all.

I have the Gen 2 and I have the ethernet adapter. Glad to know I've got options.

 

[sodamo]

Mines in NY also. I go to HD and it’s suggesting a store in Queens.

I’m in Hawaii, but internet reports LA, so I usually get routed to such sites, on HD, Lowes, and others, Hawthorne seems popular.

 

[sodamo]

I may have missed the outage. I have my Mobly as 2nd feed into my Dream Machine, so just a hiccup. Most times I miss the message of switching.

 

[sodamo]

Yes, you can. I have the ethernet adapter and it goes to my Netgear router.
My switch and hardwired equipment is plugged into the Netgear router and then I have the Starlink wireless as well as the two Netgear wireless networks to choose from.

I do similar with Eero. Not on bypass.

 

[BufordBoone]

I do similar with Eero. Not on bypass.

Great to know, thanks!

 

[ponytug]

Anyone know how to get the internal temperature of the router? It used to be part of the "Debug" information, but now I can only find a line item that reports "Temperature Normal".

Thanks!

Peter

 

[BigBlue1]

I tried to look for you but I can't even find the debug data at all in the app now?

 

[ponytug]

I tried to look for you but I can't even find the debug data at all in the app now?

Yes, it also took me awhile to find it in the current location. After the fact, it seemed obvious, but I think that I opened every other menu and submenu first.

In the Starlink app, scroll all the way down to the bottom of the first page. On the very bottom right corner is a text in a fainter grey "ADVANCED", clicking that gets to a summary page that if one scrolls all the way to the bottom gets to "Debug data".

All the best,

Peter

 

[BigBlue1]

Ah. I would not have noticed that myself. Thanks!

I did not find anything related to temperature other than you did.

 

[Torvy]

Can you run both the Starlink router and a router of your own or does the Starlink router have to be in bypass mode if you want to have another router?

I run both. The dishy is on our barn (taller than house). SL router serves the barn. Ethernet goes from barn to house. House is fully wired (cat 6e?). That feeds the in house router (wifi6). Works great unless power goes out!

 

[NoTrespassing]

My problem with Starlink ( why I won't buy it ) is the cost. $600 up front?? And then $120 each month? Are they kidding?

So, I will continue to use my T-Mobile ISP modem. They provided the equipment at no charge to me, the data is fast and totally unlimited (we use over 1 TB monthly ) and the monthly cost is a flat $40 with auto-pay. I love it.

If Elon wants to get serious about his internet option the price has to come way down. I can buy what I'm using for 3 households and then pay for a 4th household for over a year for the cost of one Starlink setup.

In our neck of the woods Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile must be overloaded. My neighbors are always complaining and they've tried em all. They've asked about Starlink a few times but honestly I hope they don't get it, more for me!

 

[sd455dan]

In our neck of the woods Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile must be overloaded. My neighbors are always complaining and they've tried em all. They've asked about Starlink a few times but honestly I hope they don't get it, more for me!

It sure varies in download speed. Last night it was in the mid 30's Mbps.

This morning did a speed test and getting 276 Mbps down and 19 ms. latency


Not complaining what a Giant step up from the Years of Hughesnet and sub 50kbps download speeds and .6 second latency. Or the 10Gig a month throttling.
The little Mobley is a great backup and keeps cruising along as well for $23 a month.

 

[John0829]

Had to bite the bullet and order Starlink on the 12th. We have ATT fixed wireless and as per usual the router is failing (it happens yearly since we got it), we had the tech come and he told us they were no longer allowed to carry replacement parts and that to get another router I would have to call and have one dropped shipped. Well the phone call ended with them telling me the fixed wireless is now "grandfathered" and there are NO replacement parts and will be shutdown in the near future. GEE, Thanks for the heads up! The only option is to upgrade to their newer wireless system that works on 5G. Yeah, right, THERE IS NO 5G available in most of the out laying areas of Kentucky and the few places 5G can be found it is very poor service in my experience so far.

So with the wallet now in intense care, with luck we will have Starlink up in a week or so. I know we will NEVER go back to Exede (basically the same as Huges Net)