Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck?

   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #31  
Not at all. All modern tires have electrically conductive additives in them , like carbon black, which keeps the tires conducive enough to dissipate static charges. It’s a requirement.
Overall tires are a poor electrical conductor, but they conduct just enough to flow static charges
True, but the problem becomes how a charge takes to dissipate. If you present a better path - like a metal nozzle - you can get a static spark immediately. Although I grant that if you took the time to wait long enough that same charge will will dissipate along the surface of a tire or into the air.

If you want to be safe right now, touch everything to ground AND to each other before filling the air with fumes. It just takes a moment. It used to be common sense. Around airplanes and race cars it still is.
 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #32  
Never knew that.
Some vehicles would have a dangling strap to ground.

The toll booths growing up had a flexible conductive whisker that bounced along the cars frame on approach to control static.
 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #33  
Read this... Love my bolt EV but it did consistently give me and my family an irritating static shock.
A little research I found the culprit was most likely "low rolling resistance" tires use silica instead of carbon black as reinforcing agent, improving gas mileage, but decreasing tire's ability to diffuse static.

So - old school solution was to install a 'static strap' to my rear bumper assembly.

I have to say I was really doubtful this would work - But it has worked amazingly well. Have not had a single shock since it was installed

 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #34  
A little research I found the culprit was most likely "low rolling resistance" tires use silica instead of carbon black as reinforcing agent, improving gas mileage, but decreasing tire's ability to diffuse static.
Tire manufacturers are inventing new compounds and manufacturing techniques to deal with reduced electrical conductance, due to a higher percentage of silica, which reduces rolling resistance having more silica, as you noted.
One such method is to have just a single cylindrical area of high carbon black , in an area of tread
 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #35  
Read this... Love my bolt EV but it did consistently give me and my family an irritating static shock.
A little research I found the culprit was most likely "low rolling resistance" tires use silica instead of carbon black as reinforcing agent, improving gas mileage, but decreasing tire's ability to diffuse static.

So - old school solution was to install a 'static strap' to my rear bumper assembly.

I have to say I was really doubtful this would work - But it has worked amazingly well. Have not had a single shock since it was installed

I tried to buy LRR tires when I installed new tires on my Focus RS turbo, looking for a bit better mileage (she gets 39-40 combined), but no luck finding them anywhere, in fact the shop that I get my tires at, never heard of them. Probably would be good for the wife's Suburban LTZ as it gets 17 average.
 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #36  
Would metal cans have the same static concerns as plastic? They are powder coated, so there isn’t any bare metal to make ground.
Like welding, I need to sand off a spot of paint in order to get a good ground connection.
This is an interesting thread as I too have started filling my tanks in the bed of my truck (Rino lined) because of my back.
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As a side note, the same can pictured can be purchased with a hand pressure pump, like a bug sprayer style. Could this manual method of pumping create static?
I've never cared for those cans. Very hard to dispense fuel out of and the spring loaded lids are a royal PITA. I have one empty, sitting and don't plan on ever using it again though the funnel part is real handy for other uses. They do have flame arrestors built in however.
 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #37  
For those wanting to fuel the gas can in the back of the truck, purchase a gallon of this and a spray bottle to apply the liquid to the gas can and fuel away.

 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #38  
I would NEVER pump gasoline into a tank in the bed of a truck. It is a VERY DANGEROUS action to take.

When I was a younger man, much younger, I had a license to load and unload chemical and gasoline barges on the rivers. I saw a gasoline barge catch on fire because the ground strap was NOT connected to the barge before the discharge started. If it had not been loaded, it would have been a huge explosion.

My thoughts are simple, do not take a chance. Stay with the smaller containers and protect yourself at all times.
 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #39  
I don't know what you really gain by switching to larger fuel containers. 5 gallons is heavy enough to lift, IMO. The racing fuel style cans hold slightly more and claim that you can store more fuel in the same space, plus I think they are slightly more stable in transport. I fill them on the ground. The larger opening makes it easier for me to fill them without spilling any fuel.
Personally I don't use that much gasoline in cans.
For diesel, my little Ford has about a 5 gallon tank that will keep me moving for about a month or so, perhaps even more. So, a 5 gallon can works well.
My "new to me" CAT probably has a 50 gallon tank. It is a pain to climb up on the tracks and fill the tank. When I was refilling the hydraulic oil, I tied myself to the cab before dumping the bucket. It would be so nice to get a large pickup tank and just drive up to it and start pumping diesel. Plus, I might be able to find off road diesel that would save the fuel taxes. However, it is probably only a short term need, so no need to get a 1000 gallon fixed tank and delivery service.
 
   / Is there a safe way to pump gasoline into a plastic tank in the bed of a truck? #40  
I use a 150 litre (about 40 gallon) pony tank in the back of one of my trucks for gasoline.
It is a roto molded plastic tank called "Carrytank".
Certified in Canada at least for gasoline and DEF.
It came with 2 mounting plates to permanently attach to the bed, grounding cables that attach to the truck, 12v pump and inline water filter. I didn't get the flow meter though (wish I did)
Also has fork pockets to help put in and out of truck bed.
 

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