An EV??????`

[Coffee drinker]

Because living in a rural area on 45 acres I have a need for a diesel truck. Which I rarely use.
Most people could easily replace one of their ICE vehicles since the average daily driving distance is 50 miles.

I’m surprised at the total ignorance that non EV owners keep displaying in these posts.

If u don’t want one then don’t get one but quit spreading misinformation.

I am surprised with all the pros you have mentioned for the EV that you still need a diesel. Because we are ignorant would you mind telling us what the EV can't do that you use the diesel for.

 

[kozal01]

Reason and logic eh?
Do you own an EV?
If you don’t your opinion on the usefulness of EVs is pretty much worthless.
But congrats on making my ever growing ignore list.

Aww, Im so sad.

 

[Jstpssng]

Bike riders here get mugged and bikes stolen… millions spent on bike lanes but the public ain’t buying it if not safe.

Another reason not to live in the city.

I did live in Bangor Maine for 5 months when I was starting out... I was bored to tears and spent a lot of time walking. One night I was walking down the side of the road when a car went by and something went whizzing past my head. I went back the next day and there was a quart beer bottle lying in the ditch. On another occasion a car stopped and a guy got out wanting to fight. I'm not a fighter but am too stupid to back down. Luckily his friends dragged him back into the car.
I'm more at home in the woods with nobody within 5 miles... which is where I'll be tomorrow.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Reason and logic eh?
Do you own an EV?
If you don’t your opinion on the usefulness of EVs is pretty much worthless.
But congrats on making my ever growing ignore list.

Hopefully some day Trad will ignore himself.

 

[wawajake]

Hopefully some day Trad will ignore himself.

It will happen this summer when he is 200 miles from home and needs a gas station model EV charger , and the only one left is broken ( vandalized by a Chicago Gang on the run) ....and he is at 20 % and its 95 degrees outside temp.....and has to post on TBN for a fellow Texan to come pick him up. His EV narrative blown he will have to put himself on ignore

 

[Hay Dude]

Well, the EV house of cards seems to be crumbling as it is. Remove the subsidies and it would really speed up the process.

And they should soon. EVs have been subsidized for a long time. If they were so fantastic, they should easily be able to compare favorably with ICE

 

[Williy]

IMHO get gov help purchasing an ev everyone
purchasing a vehicle should be getting the same!!!
But what I am hearing in congress ev's are not the
answer!
I suppose trad will say these listed below are false??
HERE ARE SOME FACTS: disadvantages include finding charging stations, charging times, higher initial costs, limited driving range, and battery packs can be expensive to replace. Battery issues, climate control, and in-car electronics are among the biggest problems in electric vehicles.

EV owners suffer from 79 percent more reliability issues than gasoline or diesel vehicles. Plug-in hybrids are even worse, with 146 percent more reliability issues, although straight hybrids are more reliable than conventional vehicles. Recurrent, a firm that studies battery health, surveyed 15,000 EV drivers in March and found that 1.5% needed battery replacements, which range between $5,000 and $20,000. TO REPLACE THE BATTERY IN MY CAR
COSTS LESS THAN $200. Gas cars are cheaper compared to fuel than electric cars. Electricity is usually more expensive than gasoline, which means that it will cost you more per mile, so gas-powered cars offer better value for money in the long run.

willy

 

[deserteagle71]

I'm more at home in the woods with nobody within 5 miles... which is where I'll be tomorrow.

I'm the same way. Which is why I live where I do. Many of the trips I take into the Nevada outback I can travel 200 miles and not see another person or even another vehicle. God's country.

 

[ultrarunner]

I'm the same way. Which is why I live where I do. Many of the trips I take into the Nevada outback I can travel 200 miles and not see another person or even another vehicle. God's country.
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Curious… are the roads privately maintained?

 

[sd455dan]

IMHO get gov help purchasing an ev everyone
purchasing a vehicle should be getting the same!!!
But what I am hearing in congress ev's are not the
answer!
I suppose trad will say these listed below are false??
HERE ARE SOME FACTS: disadvantages include finding charging stations, charging times, higher initial costs, limited driving range, and battery packs can be expensive to replace. Battery issues, climate control, and in-car electronics are among the biggest problems in electric vehicles.

EV owners suffer from 79 percent more reliability issues than gasoline or diesel vehicles. Plug-in hybrids are even worse, with 146 percent more reliability issues, although straight hybrids are more reliable than conventional vehicles. Recurrent, a firm that studies battery health, surveyed 15,000 EV drivers in March and found that 1.5% needed battery replacements, which range between $5,000 and $20,000. TO REPLACE THE BATTERY IN MY CAR
COSTS LESS THAN $200. Gas cars are cheaper compared to fuel than electric cars. Electricity is usually more expensive than gasoline, which means that it will cost you more per mile, so gas-powered cars offer better value for money in the long run.

willy

gee, I must be doing something wrong...
spent $322 on electricity and travelled 7225 miles which looks to be over 78 MPG @ $3.50 a gallon gas. today locally regular is at least $3.85 a gallon.

I do get Too many Kubota's point and agree with him, truly rural with the distances that need to be covered a pure EV in his case makes no sense to me either.

Maybe some day when batteries are lighter and trucks have 250KWH batteries it may work really well.


Today the leader in an EV truck for what TM Kubota's is needing, the Chevy EV Silverado truck might work unless it has to tow, with it's ~440 mile unladen range.

I would be Leary because of all the software problems GM's ev's have had and the battery has very little history to take a near 100K gamble on depreciation.
I think the RAM charger Hybrid EV looks interesting and like Hay Dude would like to see what RAM can come up with in an HD hybrid maybe even a diesel hybrid.

For now and likely the future we will keep our 20+ year old Cummins powered HD RAM's to tow and haul.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Recurrent, a firm that studies battery health, surveyed 15,000 EV drivers in March and found that 1.5% needed battery replacements, which range between $5,000 and $20,000. TO REPLACE THE BATTERY IN MY CAR

A Porsche Taycan owner would love a bargain like that.

When at the dealer, my girlfriend learned that the battery alone is something like $80K, and then a couple more for labor.

By the way, she did ask the salesman if he'd be willing to drive one the 160 miles to our place. He declined, already knowing it wouldn't make it all the way (he's been here so he knows the road).

 

[deserteagle71]

Curious… are the roads privately maintained?

The one in my above post is county-maintained, and the counties do a great job. Unfortunately most of the roads around me are BLM (Federal government) and they do almost no road maintenance. If a road becomes impassable due to washouts or whatever then it is considered closed and the area becomes eligible for "wilderness" designation wherein no vehicles are allowed at all. This is a pic of a BLM road, taken about 30 miles south of the road in the above post:

Only a designated employee of the Federal Government is allowed to work on a BLM road. A private individual would be subject to arrest. That policy is a big change that came about some 30 years ago. Up till then, if a rancher or miner had an interest in an area (like a mining claim) he was allowed to maintain the road. No more.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Many of the trips I take into the Nevada outback I can travel 200 miles and not see another person or even another vehicle. God's country.

Nice!

I can rarely go even 50 miles without seeing another vehicle...then again, that's on the main roads.

And the hills in the background looks a lot like what we have around here, in the EV free zone.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Today the leader in an EV truck for what TM Kubota's is needing, the Chevy EV Silverado truck might work unless it has to tow, with it's ~440 mile unladen range.

Sorry, but that wouldn't be even close for my needs. When I don't tow anything I have a TRX (with about the same range), primarily bought for when the weather gets ugly and the plow trucks are nowhere near yet.

It's somewhat rare that I go anywhere transporting only myself, or a few vehicle parts, and if the weather is bad (but not TRX bad) I take the Challenger GT AWD.

Ideally the weather is good and the roads dry, in which case I take the real Challenger - the one with a 6.2 - but unfortunately that doesn't happen often.

And like you, I have the Ram with a Cummins for towing, which is by far the one that gets the most miles on it. Which is sad in a way.

 

[ultrarunner]

The one in my above post is county-maintained, and the counties do a great job. Unfortunately most of the roads around me are BLM (Federal government) and they do almost no road maintenance. If a road becomes impassable due to washouts or whatever then it is considered closed and the area becomes eligible for "wilderness" designation wherein no vehicles are allowed at all. This is a pic of a BLM road, taken about 30 miles south of the road in the above post:
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Only a designated employee of the Federal Government is allowed to work on a BLM road. A private individual would be subject to arrest. That policy is a big change that came about some 30 years ago. Up till then, if a rancher or miner had an interest in an area (like a mining claim) he was allowed to maintain the road. No more.

I would say I’m surprised but few things surprise me anymore.

If road isn’t maintained how does a person reach their mining claim or private land?

Monster truck, pack mules, winter snow cat?

 

[sd455dan]

Sorry, but that wouldn't be even close for my needs. When I don't tow anything I have a TRX (with about the same range), primarily bought for when the weather gets ugly and the plow trucks are nowhere near yet.

It's somewhat rare that I go anywhere transporting only myself, or a few vehicle parts, and if the weather is bad (but not TRX bad) I take the Challenger GT AWD.

Ideally the weather is good and the roads dry, in which case I take the real Challenger - the one with a 6.2 - but unfortunately that doesn't happen often.

And like you, I have the Ram with a Cummins for towing, which is by far the one that gets the most miles on it. Which is sad in a way.

Same MPG wise
For me, it is the Model Y then Kawasaki Z900RS @44 MPG and then the 3500 4x4 6 speed manual Cummins RAM at ~20MPG unloaded hiway.
It has by far the longest range before stopping for fuel.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Why is taking jobs away from truck drivers “good”?

Who's taking jobs from truck drivers? Baby boomers are dropping like flies and it's not that many young ones coming on from behind.

 

[Hay Dude]

The one in my above post is county-maintained, and the counties do a great job. Unfortunately most of the roads around me are BLM (Federal government) and they do almost no road maintenance. If a road becomes impassable due to washouts or whatever then it is considered closed and the area becomes eligible for "wilderness" designation wherein no vehicles are allowed at all. This is a pic of a BLM road, taken about 30 miles south of the road in the above post:
View attachment 861184

Only a designated employee of the Federal Government is allowed to work on a BLM road. A private individual would be subject to arrest. That policy is a big change that came about some 30 years ago. Up till then, if a rancher or miner had an interest in an area (like a mining claim) he was allowed to maintain the road. No more.

Glen Beck talks about this on his show from time to time.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I know I have said this before, but I am an IDEAL candidate for an electric medium duty truck. The torque would be phenomenal and all my trips are less than 40 miles.

I have an ICE BMW X5 and a Jeep Rubicon for personal transportation.

If they build a Ram 5500 with electric that’ll pull more than my current Cummins will, without taxpayer subsidies, I’ll buy it. But I don’t think it’ll happen.

It should happen over the next 25 years more or less. I don't think many people realize how few EV makers exist in the size of the truck numbers that would need to be produced to make EV trucking. Even a thing it will happen but we're talking 2050 beyond if by then. The move to EVS will happen due to common Sense when it leaves more money in people's pockets to do so.

 

[sd455dan]

Sorry, but that wouldn't be even close for my needs. When I don't tow anything I have a TRX (with about the same range), primarily bought for when the weather gets ugly and the plow trucks are nowhere near yet.

It's somewhat rare that I go anywhere transporting only myself, or a few vehicle parts, and if the weather is bad (but not TRX bad) I take the Challenger GT AWD.

Ideally the weather is good and the roads dry, in which case I take the real Challenger - the one with a 6.2 - but unfortunately that doesn't happen often.

And like you, I have the Ram with a Cummins for towing, which is by far the one that gets the most miles on it. Which is sad in a way.

That T REX is a beast.
I really wanted a Trackhawk but even used was a bit more than I could budget.