Oil & Fuel L2502 smokes really bad at cold start

[lilranch2001]

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Got a block heater installed in the newest tractor that was delivered. Sad that this tractor was sent back to dealer because the lift arms wouldn’t go up.

Udt was over filled at the dealer. I am wondering if this could of created a problem with pressure and damaged part of the hydro system.

I doubt very much there could have been any damage due to over filling. It was more likely a setup issue when they were getting it setup at the dealer. Could have been as simple as the 3pt lift valve was backed off all the way? Unless I'm missing something, the reservoir tank for the hydraulic fluid is not pressurized. Was there fluid blowing out of a vent somewhere?

It may have been stated already, and lost in the kerfluffle, but is this a hydro or gear tractor?

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

I doubt very much there could have been any damage due to over filling. It was more likely a setup issue when they were getting it setup at the dealer. Could have been as simple as the 3pt lift valve was backed off all the way? Unless I'm missing something, the reservoir tank for the hydraulic fluid is not pressurized. Was there fluid blowing out of a vent somewhere?

It may have been stated already, and lost in the kerfluffle, but is this a hydro or gear tractor?

Just talked to dealer. He said the strange thing about it was by the time they got back to the dealership the lift arms were up. He thinks it is something stupid like linkage. The service manger and tech was here and decided to send it to the shop. Not sure how much they know.

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

I doubt very much there could have been any damage due to over filling. It was more likely a setup issue when they were getting it setup at the dealer. Could have been as simple as the 3pt lift valve was backed off all the way? Unless I'm missing something, the reservoir tank for the hydraulic fluid is not pressurized. Was there fluid blowing out of a vent somewhere?

It may have been stated already, and lost in the kerfluffle, but is this a hydro or gear tractor?

Hst

 

[Rdrcr]

PTO dyno will give numbers and are repeatable tests, when using the same dyno and the same ambient conditions.
These little tractor of 20-30 hp a 5 hp increase is quite noticeable. When you are talking 100+ Hp tractors 5 hp isn't that noticeable and often can't be confirmed on a dyno as many of them will have less then a 5% repeatability.

Seat of the pants on hills can be very definitive also, the attainable speed on an upgrade with a lower powered tractors can be very significant. If you have insufficient hp to pull a hill in your highest gear power increases can easily be gauged.

Agreed.

And confirmed on my L2501 with Turbo Kit on hills, powering PTO implements and on the PTO dyno. Although, I’m my case, it’s hard to ignore a 40% increase in power.

Mike

 

[LouNY]

Agreed.

And confirmed on my L2501 with Turbo Kit on hills, powering PTO implements and on the PTO dyno. Although, I’m my case, it’s hard to ignore a 40% increase in power.

Mike

Yes, that would be a considerable difference. A 5hp change on a 25 hp tractor would be a 20% increase and if a person pushed to to a 10 hp increase on a 25 that would be the same 40% that you achieved with just a fuel screw.

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

Just talked to dealer. Apparently a return line was installed with one of the protective plastic caps that come on new hoses. They are taking back my tractor today.

It’s suppose to snow Wednesday so I will be busy putting the blower on, building a make shift cab and putting studs in the tires.

 

[Jchonline]

My L4740 kubota made a few puffs but this bellows between 1 to 3 minutes.

That doesnt seem normal on a L2502...

My L6060 doesnt smoke for more than a few seconds. Neither does my RTX X1100C.

 

[5030]

The continuing and never ending saga.....

 

[lilranch2001]

 

[lilranch2001]

You just cannot make up a thread such as this!

 

[plastikosmd]

Ugh, I hope they didn’t “forget” anything else

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

Ugh, I hope they didn’t “forget” anything else

Everything seems to be fine now. Fingers crossed

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

When after the seat sensor froze I had to jump the sensor. A new seat is on order. Everything else seems to work fine.

So I made a make shift cab just to keep me out of the wind and blowing snow. The cab cost about $200. Still a bit of a work in progress. Planning on making lexan panels to fit inside the frame. Also plan on making pannels with screens so in the summer I will just switch out the lexan planners and install the insect screen pannels in the summer.

 

[thclimer]

Your homemade cab is not pretty, but if its functional that is what counts. Blowing snow in your face or down your neck is never a fun time!

 

[plastikosmd]

Pretty darn impressive

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

I thought you was going to force the dealer to take that tractor back…..

Tractor was replaced.

 

[Green Acres Homestead]

Anybody have a bearing type noise when pto is on? The noise is coming from the center of the tractor.

 

[rodneyn]

Even at not so cold 5 celcuis or 35 f, my new L2502 runs rought and smokes like crazy for about 3 minutes. There will be no mice or rats survive in my garage.

Anybody else have this trouble?

That smoke you are describing is normal for any non EPA tier controlled diesel in colder weather. Probably does same in warmer temperatures but lesser smoke. This what EPA is chasing on tier 5 motors absolutely no smoke on start up. I can imagine room where EPA has diesel motor on stand starting with oxygen analyzer sampling air for contamination. Like anyone runs combustible motor in confined area other than milk barn moving manure that is creating carbon footprint. We become to tied up with Microsystems we lose sight of big commercial creating far greater environmental impacts. Easy to pick on the little guy they cannot fight back but comply or abandon farming altogether. What say you neighbor farmer.

 

[Peter 315]

Anybody have a bearing type noise when pto is on? The noise is coming from the center of the tractor.

Can you post a video with sound?