L3800 adding a remote?

[Elkins45]

I have a 2013 L3800 (gear) with a loader. I would like to add a remote to it. What do I need to buy and how much should I expect it to cost?

 

[JWR]

Does it already have a remote or none? Do you have a shop in mind or doing it yourself?

 

[Tomtint]

I have a L3700SU which is basically the same tractor. I bought a WR long plug and play set up a number of years back.. I think it was about 800-1k all in back then. It's been flawless all this time with my grapple.

 

[Elkins45]

Does it already have a remote or none? Do you have a shop in mind or doing it yourself?

No remote, and DIY if possible.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

To clarify, rear remote or loader 3rd function?

 

[Harry in Ky]

Cost of parts and materials will depend on what you want as a finished product, and where you shop. A single remote can be done for under $500 from some sources or $1000 or more from others. If you have a loader (with power beyond already) that's a good start. If you know what you're doing, what to shop for, and can fabricate a little , you can do it all yourself.

 

[5030]

If you get it from your dealer expect to pay just under a grand and it's user installable and the Kubota remotes come with very detailed instructions as well as all hardware but you will need to buy a tube of 3Bond sealant which is good stuff and I use it all the time for non Kubota stuff as well. Better than RTV by a long shot. Your dealer will have it and I bet his techs use it too. All Kubota's come with a blanking plate where the remote mounts that covers and seals the orfices. You will also need the linkage but I believe the remotes come with that. I have to deliver some new tractors for my dealer tomorrow afternoon so I'll check and see if everything is complete in the kit. I can look on the parts computer. Oner thing I always get when buying a new tractor or looking at a used one Kubota of course, I run nothing else, is if they have a full package of remotes, I can always add a flow control valve and they aren't expensive and I need that when I have my 3 point stump grinder on the back and for me. it's a very handy thing for me to have. Kind of surprised you didn't add that when you purchased the unit. Something I always do and installed at the factory that are a bit cheaper too. Every owner needs at least one set of remotes but I need 3 sets (6 outlets) and I could actually use a 4th set but Kubota only has 3 sets available except on their big units with the big payment I don't need.

 

[Elkins45]

To clarify, rear remote or loader 3rd function?

Rear.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I'm fairly sure that Kubota no longer offers any rear remotes for your model. None of the 3rd party suppliers have the valves all nice and tucked away like the factory sets usually are. The valves are going to be exposed, typically above the fender.

So you can purchase from a 3rd party such as Land Pride or Summit for 2 examples. I don't recommend either, but a lot of people buy from them.

Or build a set on your own which is going to be the least costly without any doubt. Be sure that you get valves that do not have excessive internal leakage. Ask whoever you purchase from what their warranty is regarding this issue, it is fairly common with economy-type valves. Most simply don't cover the issue, just the way it is seems to be the common answer from what I have seen.

If you want you can purchase from Fit Rite Hydraulics something similar to what is pictured, but this is not cheap and has a 22 week lead time.

There is nothing like having hydraulic adjustments at your fingertips.

Good luck with your research and decision.

 

[JWR]

I'm fairly sure that Kubota no longer offers any rear remotes for your model. None of the 3rd party suppliers have the valves all nice and tucked away like the factory sets usually are. The valves are going to be exposed, typically above the fender.

So you can purchase from a 3rd party such as Land Pride or Summit for 2 examples. I don't recommend either, but a lot of people buy from them.

Or build a set on your own which is going to be the least costly without any doubt. Be sure that you get valves that do not have excessive internal leakage. Ask whoever you purchase from what their warranty is regarding this issue, it is fairly common with economy-type valves. Most simply don't cover the issue, just the way it is seems to be the common answer from what I have seen.

If you want you can purchase from Fit Rite Hydraulics something similar to what is pictured, but this is not cheap and has a 22 week lead time.

There is nothing like having hydraulic adjustments at your fingertips.

Good luck with your research and decision.

Mtn View -- what you show in these pics are 3 remotes with controls, right? Would that group of valves be fed from a power beyond port somewhere? ...and then a return hose back to the sump?

 

[Elkins45]

What about this option? It requires you to switch out a function when using the remote but for something like a top link that shouldn’t be a big problem. My old MF required switching between the loader and the 3 point hitch and I managed to get used to that.

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[MtnViewRanch]

Mtn View -- what you show in these pics are 3 remotes with controls, right? Would that group of valves be fed from a power beyond port somewhere? ...and then a return hose back to the sump?

Yes, the power beyond port at the loader valve feeds the rear remote valves. The power beyond port of the rear remotes goes down and connects at the hydraulic block where the loader power beyond previously was connected.
The return to tank lines are teed together at the hydraulic block under the right side floorboard.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

What about this option? It requires you to switch out a function when using the remote but for something like a top link that shouldn’t be a big problem. My old MF required switching between the loader and the 3 point hitch and I managed to get used to that.

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It is an option, no doubt.

 

[5030]

I'm fairly sure that Kubota no longer offers any rear remotes for your model.

I believe they do but I'll check later on. I will be going there a bit later to play delivery driver and drop off some stuff. If I can get parts for my 2002 M9's with no issue, I believe they can and my dealer might just have a kit on the shelf. He keeps stuff in stock that I consider 'antiques...lol

 

[JWR]

What about this option? It requires you to switch out a function when using the remote but for something like a top link that shouldn’t be a big problem. My old MF required switching between the loader and the 3 point hitch and I managed to get used to that.

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If it fits your needs -- do it ! I do not see why one diverter valve and some hose costs $500 however...
Certainly an hydraulic top link only needs adjustment once in a while (for me at least) so making that an either/or with some other function should be fine. Also the hyd top link is a very forgiving application with no real flow requirement, etc.

 

[Harry in Ky]

Personally, I don't care much for "kits" in this case. As I see it, kits are for people who aren't really sure of what they're doing. You buy what someone else thinks is what you need. But if you buy one you're at the mercy of what comes in the box. If it fits/works where and how you want it, great. If not, it's back to town for some different fittings, different hoses, more hardware, etc. The cost of the kit is often full retail on all parts, plus some profit for the supplier. Almost got to be more expensive than sourcing your own parts, because you see the individual prices as you go along and choose the sources yourself. Myself, I enjoy figuring out what parts I need and then hunting them down. Seems like the better way to go for me.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Personally, I don't care much for "kits" in this case. As I see it, kits are for people who aren't really sure of what they're doing. You but what someone else thinks is what you need. But if you buy one you're at the mercy of what comes in the box. If it fits/works where and how you want it, great. If not, it's back to town for some different fittings, different hoses, more hardware, etc. The cost of the kit is often full retail on all parts, plus some profit for the supplier. Almost got to be more expensive than sourcing your own parts, because you see the individual prices as you go along and choose the sources yourself. Myself, I enjoy figuring out what parts I need and then hunting them down. Seems like the better way to go for me.

Everyone does not have fabrication abilities and or the machinery to do these things even if they happen to know how to use the machinery to build the different mounts.

But you are correct, many kits have items that you pay for that are worthless for a particular set of circumstances. That's one of the reasons that I do not supply the 3 supply line hoses for the valves, to many variables to be considered. I do supply what I call a measuring hose though. This hose mimics the hydraulic hoses very well and allows the customer to determine where and how they want to route the hoses as well as get the length needed.

If a person reads many of the DIY posts, almost every one of them has purchased items multiple times because they either get items wrong or simply don't think or don't realize everything that is required to build these things.

The other thing, people don't realize the difference between all the different qualities there are for this stuff and usually just get the cheapest stuff they can find. After all, they are trying to save a few dollars.

While it works, how well it works is easily debatable.

Good luck to the OP.

 

[Oldstuff]

I agree about the kits being expensive, however- I am totally happy with my tractorinnovations kit for my L3400!

 

[Harry in Ky]

I agree about the kits being expensive, however- I am totally happy with my tractorinnovations kit for my L3400!

If you're happy with what you got for what it cost, that's all that counts.

 

[JWR]

Reading all of the above makes a pretty good argument for this:

Find a well-established local shop (not a dealer) whose shop rates are about 2/3 that of the dealer or less. Tell them what the object is -- x number of remotes and the preferred type of connectors -- and get a price for doing the job. Have a conversation. Q&A. Have it done and over with. Such a reputable shop will make choices on connectors and hoses etc. based on his familiarity, what he has in stock and knowing what he has to end up with. Unless you are a capable experienced hydraulic installation guy you'll be better off and glad you hired him. You also can probably learn a lot while he is doing it and may be in a better position to DIY the next round.