Newbie To YM looking for answers.

[MahindraYanmar]

I have had a Mahindra 1526 for a couple years. It kinda feels like a Cadillac. The Yanmar 186d feels like an old time tractor. But I kinda like it.

I bought it to develop a 3A flat property so i don’t have to truck Big Red 400 miles one way. I can’t use it here because of the hills and no ROPS.
I have read through the forum, very informative. Some of the starting suggestions have helped

Stupid me, didn’t try the PTO when I looked at it. When i got it home I tried it and thats when the problems start. PTO test stirred up water in the Hydraulic system. Milk Leaking out of all the seals on the FEL.

Flushed and filled, added some Lucas conditioner. Got leaks to an acceptable, not catastrophic level.

Some questions

1. PTO seems to be running very slow. Tried it today, ran fine in Double Neutral. It ran at speed. Do I need to start it in Neutral then shift into 1,2,3?.
2. I know the guy I bought it from is a tinkerer He took the FEL off another in his bone yard. How much extra Fluid is needed for to run the FEL?
3. I think my FEL jerking is due to not enough fluid. If you guys tell me 3g or more. , I will believe. I think I have 2.5 in now.
4. After I got it off the trailer, I found hook piece on the trailer. The 4 wheel drive lever is not engaging anything. It did before i loaded it. A thread on here gave me a clue, but I am confused because the schematic didn’t match the pics. Pics had a hook, Schematic didn’t, Confused on this.

 

[YanmarFever]

First I would change is the hydraulic fluid and clean the filter screen that's inside the tractor, that could be why its jerky (sp)

The reason the fluid looks like milk is because there is water in it !

 

[bmaverick]

I have had a Mahindra 1526 for a couple years. It kinda feels like a Cadillac. The Yanmar 186d feels like an old time tractor. But I kinda like it.

I bought it to develop a 3A flat property so i don’t have to truck Big Red 400 miles one way. I can’t use it here because of the hills and no ROPS.
I have read through the forum, very informative. Some of the starting suggestions have helped

Stupid me, didn’t try the PTO when I looked at it. When i got it home I tried it and thats when the problems start. PTO test stirred up water in the Hydraulic system. Milk Leaking out of all the seals on the FEL.

Flushed and filled, added some Lucas conditioner. Got leaks to an acceptable, not catastrophic level.

Some questions

1. PTO seems to be running very slow. Tried it today, ran fine in Double Neutral. It ran at speed. Do I need to start it in Neutral then shift into 1,2,3?.
2. I know the guy I bought it from is a tinkerer He took the FEL off another in his bone yard. How much extra Fluid is needed for to run the FEL?
3. I think my FEL jerking is due to not enough fluid. If you guys tell me 3g or more. , I will believe. I think I have 2.5 in now.
4. After I got it off the trailer, I found hook piece on the trailer. The 4 wheel drive lever is not engaging anything. It did before i loaded it. A thread on here gave me a clue, but I am confused because the schematic didn’t match the pics. Pics had a hook, Schematic didn’t, Confused on this.

When you flushed the hydraulic system, these older tractors can use diesel for the flush and a few cans of Seafoam. From Yanmar records, the capacity is between 8.5 to 9qts stock, without loader nor power steering nor external power beyond.

And when refilling use only J20C specified fluid. Be sure it states MEETS J20C and never 'compatible' with nor 'recommended'. Those are marketing terms and can cause odd behaviors with the hydraulics otherwise.

Here are examples,

 

[bmaverick]

I have had a Mahindra 1526 for a couple years. It kinda feels like a Cadillac. The Yanmar 186d feels like an old time tractor. But I kinda like it.

I bought it to develop a 3A flat property so i don’t have to truck Big Red 400 miles one way. I can’t use it here because of the hills and no ROPS.
I have read through the forum, very informative. Some of the starting suggestions have helped

Stupid me, didn’t try the PTO when I looked at it. When i got it home I tried it and thats when the problems start. PTO test stirred up water in the Hydraulic system. Milk Leaking out of all the seals on the FEL.

Flushed and filled, added some Lucas conditioner. Got leaks to an acceptable, not catastrophic level.

Some questions

1. PTO seems to be running very slow. Tried it today, ran fine in Double Neutral. It ran at speed. Do I need to start it in Neutral then shift into 1,2,3?.
2. I know the guy I bought it from is a tinkerer He took the FEL off another in his bone yard. How much extra Fluid is needed for to run the FEL?
3. I think my FEL jerking is due to not enough fluid. If you guys tell me 3g or more. , I will believe. I think I have 2.5 in now.
4. After I got it off the trailer, I found hook piece on the trailer. The 4 wheel drive lever is not engaging anything. It did before i loaded it. A thread on here gave me a clue, but I am confused because the schematic didn’t match the pics. Pics had a hook, Schematic didn’t, Confused on this.

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[MahindraYanmar]

@bmaverick Thanks I have been working with a 186 parts list and a 165 manual.

When I flushed and filled I used JD20 and cleaned the screen before final fill. Had to wait for a new screen cover.

The info I had found said 2.1G for the tractor hydraulic capacity. I wasn’t sure how much more for the FEL

 

[California]

When I flushed and filled I used JD20 and cleaned the screen before final fill. Had to wait for a new screen cover.

I assume that's the screen and cover beneath your left thigh. Did you also replace the larger filter below the loader control? That one was common for Ford so is widely available.

And did you find the transmission/hydraulic dipstick? It's below the seat, on the left. At the center of this photo.

 

[MahindraYanmar]

I assume that's the screen and cover beneath your left thigh. Did you also replace the larger filter below the loader control? That one was common for Ford so is widely available.

And did you find the transmission/hydraulic dipstick? It's below the seat, on the left. At the center of this photo.

Screen cover below your left knee, Filter on the right-Napa 1525 even though I did a WIX because all the NAPA dealers were all out in the state
The dip stick will show fluid, but on a second dip not much. I think my jerking FEL is due to low fluid.

More interested in why the PTO is slow, but runs at speed in neutral

 

[California]

Screen cover below your left knee, Filter on the right-Napa 1525 even though I did a WIX because all the NAPA dealers were all out in the state
The dip stick will show fluid, but on a second dip not much. I think my jerking FEL is due to low fluid.

Ok, filters don't seem to be the issue.

More interested in why the PTO is slow, but runs at speed in neutral

That is really strange. The shaft driving the PTO internal gears in effect, comes straight back from the clutch. Engage the clutch, the PTO gears are mechanically linked and should turn, either 540 or 1,000 rpm, at 'pto speed' on the tach. Have you tried driving a mower or something from the PTO?

And the PTO shaft shouldn't turn with its shifter in neutral.

EDIT - SEE MY NEXT POST.

 

[California]

Looking at the YM186D Parts diagrams, I can't find a separate removable PTO module like I found on my YM240.

Apparently the shifter just moves things inside the transmission like an ordinary gearshift. See figure 42 in the 1980 microfilm version, or the 2010 pdf version, YM186 Parts Manual.

 

[MahindraYanmar]

I have one of those strange 3 speed below and 3 speeds up top trannys.
If i can put short videos up I will try tomorrow

 

[MahindraYanmar]

Went out to do videos. Figured out the PTO.

Feeling kind of stupid. It works fine when you don‘t have the clutch pushed in

 

[ponytug]

Went out to do videos. Figured out the PTO.

Feeling kind of stupid. It works fine when you don‘t have the clutch pushed in

I think that we have all been there before. Congratulations on getting it sorted out.

All the best,

Peter

 

[California]

Now the next gotcha is when the tiller or rotary mower stalled the tractor and you can't get it started again. Turn the key, nothing.

Finally, you remember there's a hidden safety switch that allows connection to the starter only if the PTO lever is in Neutral.

BTDT more times than I want to remember.

(Just by chance that switch is in my photo, above.)

 

[bmaverick]

Now the next gotcha is when the tiller or rotary mower stalled the tractor and you can't get it started again. Turn the key, nothing.

Finally, you remember there's a hidden safety switch that allows connection to the starter only if the PTO lever is in Neutral.

BTDT more times than I want to remember.

(Just by chance that switch is in my photo, above.)

WOW. My YM2610 has nothing like the hidden switch. This is really good to know.

In the YM186 ops manual, is there talk about using this hidden switch?

 

[California]

WOW. My YM2610 has nothing like the hidden switch. This is really good to know.

In the YM186 ops manual, is there talk about using this hidden switch?

Dunno, don't have that manual.

 

[MahindraYanmar]

Hey mine dosen’t even have a key. Just a toggle switch for the glow plug equivalent and a push button for the starter.
Told you I got it from a tinkerer and i am trying to figure it out.
My Mahindra is like a Cadillac. Was used to my FILs McCormick. This Yanmar is somewhere in between

 

[California]

Hey mine doesn’t even have a key. Just a toggle switch for the glow plug equivalent and a push button for the starter.
Told you I got it from a tinkerer and i am trying to figure it out.

No 'ignition' switch to engage/disengage the charging system? Those functions should also be on that switch.

 

[careyo63]

Flashing Volt meter light. First problem one when I bought it. Random and now the Temp. light. Stick my hand under the dash and feel the Radiator air Temp. and cut the switch off!!. Happened quick last time so I don't even get off to look at the overflow anymore. It's sits this time of Yr. in Ga. so I'll check on it. Reg. Maint etc...... Been busy on the F2000.

 

[MahindraYanmar]

Not exactly stock

 

[careyo63]

I'm avoiding that and keeping it Org.. Who knows but you now whats going on it's been into so bad. Put it back org. not that expensive parts wise just time consuming. Ca. going to be a big help I can forsee!!