Paint - Majic or Rust-oleum ?

[5030]

One more time (I've posted this numerous times in the past...)

Rustoleum Kubota Orange is the late model Orange II.
Majic Kubota Orange is the early model Orange I.

Neither makes the ROPS grey in a perfect match but you can come very close by matching the cap color to the tractor frame and no one makes the early Kubota blue-grey frame paint that I can find except Kubota and I have a couple full cans if anyone wants them.

Because the late model ROPS grey you can buy at a Kubota dealer and their ROPS grey is a high titanium dioxide paint, a little goes a long way so I buy that instead. Not cheap, Kubota stuff isn't but the coverage is excellent.

Interestingly, Rustoleum Sunrise Red is a dead match for New Holland red.

 

[WinterDeere]

It wasn’t part of the question, but all of the OEM paints I’ve tried have been better than anything you’ll find at the hardware store, whether that be Deere, IH/Cub, or other. Manufacturers like Deere put some pretty austere requirements on the companies that manufacture their paints, and while not cheap, it’s some tough stuff.

 

[nyone]

Probably due entirely to dry film thickness, as many don’t thin as far for HVLP as rattle can. More coats with the rattle can will get you there.

If a big job, HVLP is always easier, but there’s clean-up time to consider. Rattle can gets the small jobs done, but requires more coats for same DFT.

What's dry film thickness?

If your going to consider clean up time in the process I can lay down way more paint with a HVLP gun over a spray can. Clean up on a gun is about 5min max.

Any thing I want to look decent or tje paint to last I HVLP spray it. Even the doors on my cabin are gun sprayed, so are the old metal cabinets in my garage. Just turns out better and stronger.

I have used plenty of rattle cans before I knew how to use a spray gun.

 

[WinterDeere]

What's dry film thickness?

The measured thickness of the paint after curing. Standard industry term.

If your going to consider clean up time in the process I can lay down way more paint with a HVLP gun over a spray can. Clean up on a gun is about 5min max.

That's pretty good. What gun are you running? I can do mine in 5 minutes, when I've been spraying several days in a row, if it's getting filled with thinner and re-used the next day. But for a full thorough clean, dry, and pack away on a single stand-alone project, when I don't already have everything out and setup, I'm probably more like 10-20 minutes on a typical automotive style HVLP rig.

Any thing I want to look decent or tje paint to last I HVLP spray it. Even the doors on my cabin are gun sprayed, so are the old metal cabinets in my garage. Just turns out better and stronger.

Definitely. Anything big like that gets HVLP here, too. But I just did a damn nice job on a propane riser with a rattle can, last weekend. No way am I dragging an air hose 300 feet from my shop compressor to my back patio for such a small job!

 

[dkmc]

Thanks for the replys...I'll be spraying (Rust-oleum) with a HF HLVP gun, I might just get 2 quarts instead of a gallon which is probably an excessive amount for a 5k sized forklift. I wanted AC orange, nothing regionally in quarts or gallons, so Kubota orange it will be. Back around 1991 I sprayed TC 'tractor paint' with hardener on my IH330, must be that was the Valspar stuff? Still holding up very well all these years later.

 

[Paystar]

Thanks for the replys...I'll be spraying (Rust-oleum) with a HF HLVP gun, I might just get 2 quarts instead of a gallon which is probably an excessive amount for a 5k sized forklift. I wanted AC orange, nothing regionally in quarts or gallons, so Kubota orange it will be. Back around 1991 I sprayed TC 'tractor paint' with hardener on my IH330, must be that was the Valspar stuff? Still holding up very well all these years later.

If you can find New Kubota orange it matches my CA pretty good. But if you look at the center dishes in my rear rims, that is OLD Kubota orange and it looks terrible, LOL
The rims are actual AC Persian Orange.

 

[dkmc]

If you can find New Kubota orange it matches my CA pretty good. But if you look at the center dishes in my rear rims, that is OLD Kubota orange and it looks terrible, LOL
The rims are actual AC Persian Orange.

The Kubota color they have at TS seems to be the new color. They only have the one choice. I like the newer better than the old color. Any color orange paint will be better than what it looks like now....

 

[Paystar]

The Kubota color they have at TS seems to be the new color. They only have the one choice. I like the newer better than the old color. Any color orange paint will be better than what it looks like now....

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Most I have seen will say NEW or OLD Kubota on the can.
But yes, the OLD is more of a safety orange.

Good luck with your project. The worst part is cleaning everything to get it ready for paint, LOL

 

[amhicks21]

Ive made the mistake of using majic multiple times. Its terribly soft even with hardener and takes forever to dry. Rustoleum has never done me wrong.

 

[dkmc]

Ive made the mistake of using majic multiple times. Its terribly soft even with hardener and takes forever to dry. Rustoleum has never done me wrong.

I'm really glad I asked, no Majic for me

 

[rocco611]

I have used both Majic and Rustoleum to some extent. not a big difference in the products. I believe these products are both Alkyd enamels. Neither product holds up well outdoors in the weather. Trailers and implements that I have that set out in the weather I paint with Acrylic Urethane automotive paint. If I spend a lot of time prepping something for paint, I don't want to paint it with something that will fade and chalk out in a year. HighTeck, Restorationshop, Eastwood, summit, Kirker etc all make acrylic Urethane paints that are much better and generally will last 5 years or more out in the weather.

 

[KennyG]

It's clear that urethane paints are the state of the art, I've got implements I've painted with Rustoleum years ago that still look very good. Urethane is pretty expensive and hardly worth it for equipment that's going to be beat around and scratched up.