What's your average mpg?

[nikdfish]

2020 Ram 5.7, 17-18 mixed driving (w/out towing) , 14 w/towing in the mix, 11-12 while towing the 7k trailers (car hauler, dump, utility/landscape) w/average loads.

 

[Oaktree]

When we drive our Suburban to Oklahoma, about 875 miles, we're lucky to get 17-18mpg. When we take the Subaru, we get 34mpg. That's 100% better mileage, or, half the fuel costs. Round trip it's a bit over 100 gallons of gas VS about 50. @ $3.89/gallon = $389 VS $194.
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So, if you drive a lot, high MPG vehicles are well worth it. Not so much if you don't put in the miles.

But I bet that Suburban rides much nicer and is more comfortable on such a long drive. It's been a few years, but any Suburu I've driven was not very comfortable, very cramped driving position.

That's the downside of most high MPG vehicles...you trade comfort and often performance for fuel economy. I'm 73, too few years left to cram myself into some econobox just to save a few bucks on gas.

Anyway...my "fleet";
'02 Dodge Dakota/4.7 4WD: 17
'06 Jeep Grand Cherokee/3.7 AWD: 20ish everyday driving, 24-25 on a trip

Wife's:
'15 Buick Regal AWD (turbo 4 don't know displacement) 28 if she drives, low 30s if I drive.

 

[kozal01]

When I was DD'ing my 2015 F-150 it was averaging 18-20 depending on the season, now that I only drive it occasionally and mostly for towing its around 16 average.
Ive had a few work cars, first one was a 2020 Ford Escape, that would average about 35 but certain trips I could see 38. (totalled her in February, wish I could get it back), had rentals for a while after that so never really payed attention. The last two are Subaru's (that I cant stand!! Awful cars!) a 2023 Outback, that was lucky to see 25 MPG and now a 2020 Forester that gets about 30.

 

[MossRoad]

But I bet that Suburban rides much nicer and is more comfortable on such a long drive. It's been a few years, but any Suburu I've driven was not very comfortable, very cramped driving position.

That's the downside of most high MPG vehicles...you trade comfort and often performance for fuel economy. I'm 73, too few years left to cram myself into some econobox just to save a few bucks on gas.

Anyway...my "fleet";
'02 Dodge Dakota/4.7 4WD: 17
'06 Jeep Grand Cherokee/3.7 AWD: 20ish everyday driving, 24-25 on a trip

Wife's:
'15 Buick Regal AWD (turbo 4 don't know displacement) 28 if she drives, low 30s if I drive.

Yes, the 2003 Suburban is quite comfortable. Couch on wheels. However, the 2020 Subaru Outback is quite comfortable as well. The seats are very adjustable, great support, heaters, etc. Plus, the Subaru has Apple Car Play and Subaru EyeSight. Those features make it much less tiring to drive long distances. Overall, while I really like the ride of the Suburban, I'm giving the nod to the Outback for long distance driving. Much easier on the body. I don't have to cram myself in it. I have to move the seat forward to reach the pedals.

Go testdrive a new 2023 Subaru Outback. If you can, find the one with the turbo. Weeee!!

 

[sea2summit]

I don't think 58mpg average is possible with gas assuming you're moving a human and a vehicle....probably highway.

Anyway:
Toyota 20.7 mpg, thing 2 commutes to college with
Nissian van ~18 mpg, used by the boss
F250 14.1 ave, 7.5 towing.
F750 13 ave, 11 towing....evil no emissions motor right there
BMW motorcycle 47mpg, commuter rig

 

[pmsmechanic]

That's the downside of most high MPG vehicles...you trade comfort and often performance for fuel economy. I'm 73, too few years left to cram myself into some econobox just to save a few bucks on gas.

I find VW Jettas ride and drive pretty comfortable. Certainly better than the Japanese cars of the same vintage that I have driven. A VW Beetle or a Golf is more like a tin box. Fuel economy and performance from a diesel is pretty descent. Gas economy is ok if you keep your foot out of it. Getting in and out of them is harder than a pickup or a mini van but to cram yourself into them is a stretch of the word.

 

[Gator6x4]

To get the 58 mpg will require redesigning the entire drive train. It will take 10 or fifteen gear transmission and a multiple speed differential of probably 5 or more speeds.

 

[scott_vt]

Good Morning,
I have a 2017 F-150 I bought new , when I first got the truck I was getting 22-25 mpg on a trip. That was with the highway tires that the truck came with ! I now have the BF Goodrich tires with an aggressive snow tread for those Vermont snows , and also my steeper in one section DW ! The truck has the 5.0 L V8, which is a great motor in my opinion. With these tires I usually don’t get over 23 on a trip !

 

[tacticalturnip]

I get about 11-12 mpg in my Ef-TreeFiddy, and the missus get's 28 out of her Kia Sorento. That 28 mpg drops considerably when I drive it; AWD, V6, transmission in sport mode. I absolutely consume all of her fuel efficiency.

 

[Oaktree]

I find VW Jettas ride and drive pretty comfortable. Certainly better than the Japanese cars of the same vintage that I have driven. A VW Beetle or a Golf is more like a tin box. Fuel economy and performance from a diesel is pretty descent. Gas economy is ok if you keep your foot out of it. Getting in and out of them is harder than a pickup or a mini van but to cram yourself into them is a stretch of the word.

Haven't driven a VW in a very long time so I can't comment on them. I was more thinking most Japanese makes, which I've long found to be rather cramped inside.

 

[kozal01]

Yes, the 2003 Suburban is quite comfortable. Couch on wheels. However, the 2020 Subaru Outback is quite comfortable as well. The seats are very adjustable, great support, heaters, etc. Plus, the Subaru has Apple Car Play and Subaru EyeSight. Those features make it much less tiring to drive long distances. Overall, while I really like the ride of the Suburban, I'm giving the nod to the Outback for long distance driving. Much easier on the body. I don't have to cram myself in it. I have to move the seat forward to reach the pedals.

Go testdrive a new 2023 Subaru Outback. If you can, find the one with the turbo. Weeee!!

I honestly dont know why people rave about these cars, especially the eyesight. Ive found it to be annoying. I had two different rentals long term earlier this year, A Bronco sport and a Jeep Grand Cherokee and both of those vehicles had far better adaptive cruise control than either of the Subarus Ive had since and by a large margin. These Subarus cant modulate speed in hills to save their life, its so obnoxios! The Outback I had did ride nice and was way more comfortable than this Forester but damn was it slow! Forget trying to pass, it was awful. I havent driven anything made in the last 20 years as slow as that car was. All the guys I work with buy the Subi's but I just cant, I ordered another Escape.

 

[MossRoad]

I honestly dont know why people rave about these cars, especially the eyesight. Ive found it to be annoying. I had two different rentals long term earlier this year, A Bronco sport and a Jeep Grand Cherokee and both of those vehicles had far better adaptive cruise control than either of the Subarus Ive had since and by a large margin. These Subarus cant modulate speed in hills to save their life, its so obnoxios! The Outback I had did ride nice and was way more comfortable than this Forester but damn was it slow! Forget trying to pass, it was awful. I havent driven anything made in the last 20 years as slow as that car was. All the guys I work with buy the Subi's but I just cant, I ordered another Escape.

I haven't experienced any of those problems. The car is able to merge into freeway traffic easily, maintains its speed up and down hills, adaptive cruise works great, passes just fine. Runs along with traffic at 80-90 just fine.

Took it on one of our trips out to OK a couple months ago. It was great. Going again in a few weeks. Took it to Pittsburg a few months ago as well. Nothing BUT hills out there. Did not experience any feelings of underpower.

 

[Grumpycat]

Looks like I better buy that motorcycle

Seriously, a Prius gets better MPG than any practical motorcycle. And the tires are less expensive outright, and less expensive per mile.

Also be sure to price motorcycle tires. Typical radial tires last 5,000 to 10,000 miles and cost $150-$300 each. Minimum $50 each to mount, $100/wheel on bike is not uncommon.

I have 12 motorcycle street tires on the back patio to take to the dump. Cost so much to mount and I was going through them at 16,000 miles/year, bought the tools and learned how.

Tesla Model 3 or Y is getting in range of most. Very nicely equipped cost about the same as the national average paid for a new car in 2022.

 

[Grumpycat]

2016 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5i 29.17 MPG, 25,628 miles, 880 gallons.
2016 Yamaha FJR1300A 49.21 MPG, 85,498 miles, 1740 gallons
2018 F-150 XLT 2.7EB 4x4 22.37 MPG, 9,548 miles, 427 gallons
2013 Tesla Model S 85 infinity MPG, 73,848 miles, 0 gallons

Measured from grid the Tesla is using 330 Wh/mile for 24369.84 kWh. At $0.10/kWh that is $2,436.98 or $0.033/mile.

A good price for E10 87 AKI locally is $3.359 which would need over 100 MPG to equal $0.033/mile.

Yup, these EVs are a worthless fad.

 

[stumblinhorse]

2016 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5i 29.17 MPG, 25,628 miles, 880 gallons.
2016 Yamaha FJR1300A 49.21 MPG, 85,498 miles, 1740 gallons
2018 F-150 XLT 2.7EB 4x4 22.37 MPG, 9,548 miles, 427 gallons
2013 Tesla Model S 85 infinity MPG, 73,848 miles, 0 gallons

Measured from grid the Tesla is using 330 Wh/mile for 24369.84 kWh. At $0.10/kWh that is $2,436.98 or $0.033/mile.

A good price for E10 87 AKI locally is $3.359 which would need over 100 MPG to equal $0.033/mile.

Yup, these EVs are a worthless fad.

Not sure how many people are paying .10/kWh…. That is cheap!

But if you can make electric work that is a good thing. and will pretty much be gov’t mandated before too long.

 

[kozal01]

I haven't experienced any of those problems. The car is able to merge into freeway traffic easily, maintains its speed up and down hills, adaptive cruise works great, passes just fine. Runs along with traffic at 80-90 just fine.

Took it on one of our trips out to OK a couple months ago. It was great. Going again in a few weeks. Took it to Pittsburg a few months ago as well. Nothing BUT hills out there. Did not experience any feelings of underpower.

I should have mentioned I didn’t have the turbo version but still, it was terribly underpowered and the CVT transmission is just bad. I drive about 700-1000 miles a week so the little things that many don’t notice about their vehicles become very annoying after that many hours in a car at a time.

 

[mikester]

Three current vehicles mileage. One is a bike and other two are cars. Guess which is which.

41, 43, 47 MPG (US Gallons)

 

[ArlyA]

I honestly dont know why people rave about these cars, especially the eyesight. Ive found it to be annoying. I had two different rentals long term earlier this year, A Bronco sport and a Jeep Grand Cherokee and both of those vehicles had far better adaptive cruise control than either of the Subarus Ive had since and by a large margin. These Subarus cant modulate speed in hills to save their life, its so obnoxios! The Outback I had did ride nice and was way more comfortable than this Forester but damn was it slow! Forget trying to pass, it was awful. I havent driven anything made in the last 20 years as slow as that car was. All the guys I work with buy the Subi's but I just cant, I ordered another Escape.

Please post a review of your Bronco in a new thread.. We like our 2019 ranger which has promoted us to look at them.

 

[Eagle1]

2016 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5i 29.17 MPG, 25,628 miles, 880 gallons.
2016 Yamaha FJR1300A 49.21 MPG, 85,498 miles, 1740 gallons
2018 F-150 XLT 2.7EB 4x4 22.37 MPG, 9,548 miles, 427 gallons
2013 Tesla Model S 85 infinity MPG, 73,848 miles, 0 gallons

Measured from grid the Tesla is using 330 Wh/mile for 24369.84 kWh. At $0.10/kWh that is $2,436.98 or $0.033/mile.

A good price for E10 87 AKI locally is $3.359 which would need over 100 MPG to equal $0.033/mile.

Yup, these EVs are a worthless fad.

But with electric rates at 43c (Hawaii) or even in the low 30s (CA, MA, NH, CT) that math make less sense. Triple or quadruple the electric rate and you are right back back in ICE range.
With your Tesla numbers and $0.35/kWh the cost becomes $0.1155/mile or right about 29 mpg at your posted $3.359.

 

[masseyrider]

2018 Ford Flex Eco Boost 23mpg.
2023 F150 5L 17-22 mpg
2021 Hell Raisin Dodge Challenger Hellcat 12city 26highway
2006 Midnight Blue Ford GT 5.4L (NOT a Mustang) Anywhere from 3mpg to 18mpg. Depends on how deep you put your foot.
MF563 about 1.5 gallons per hour under moderate load. 8 foot side shifting Bush Hog/ 10 foot wheel disc/3furrow plow.