Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability.

   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #121  
How about helping people in need, hurt, just had an accident, stuck in the snow? When we were on a vacation we drove the Blue Ridge Parkway. There were two motorcycles in the road around a corner and one had wrecked 10 seconds before we got there. Not life threatening injuries but a badly injured shoulder. He wasn’t getting up. I’m the only one whose phone had a connection so I called 911 and we stayed until help got there. It took about 20 minutes for anyone to show up, it was pretty rural. It just seemed like a necessary thing just to make sure nobody came around the corner and ran him over. Several cars did stop and offer help and one person did get his bike up and down to a parking area.

A couple years ago I was cleaning my driveway to go to work after a really bad unexpected overnight snowstorm I was on the road without my 4 ways on and it was around 430 am not a car insight. I turned to backup and saw a cop standing behind me holding her badge. I’m glad I kept my mouth shut because I was going to yell at her if she chastised me for not having my hazards on on the tractor while on the road. It turns out it was the neighbor about a mile down the road and her cruiser was in the ditch. She asked me to pull her out which I did. I wasn’t expecting a commendation from her chief, or an official resolution from the mayor and city council of the city she worked for. It’s not a big deal but my wife thought it was really nice of all of them for how they thanked me for doing the right thing
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #122  
I take the time to thank people for deeds and services. I also make a habit of informing their boss or whomever is or could be their superior.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #124  
Speaking of teachers….
Was talking to my wife the other night about her incoming class this year and behavior of kids in past years.

20 years ago when my wife started teaching, she would get a class of 20 kids and 1 or 2 would be misbehaved. She and her co-teachers now lament that a class of 20 kids today has 1 or 2 well behaved kids and 18 or 19 brats!
During conferences, she says she has noticed a lot of dysfunction in families in recent years. Kids forced to look at I-Pads with headphones from the age of 2, no socialization skills. Then the school gets that and they are a freakin mess. Parents “out to lunch” and more worried about the social media scores than raising good kids.
I see it all the time now, put a 3 y/o on a tablet so that they're distracted and don't bug the parents. Detached parenting. That, coupled with child programming being mostly fast-moving/switching images on TV, so that the kid develops a short attention span. Just not a good recipe for a respectful student ready for class.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #125  
What is a social media score?
I was wondering the same thing. The only place I’ve heard of that is in news articles about China.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #126  
I was wondering the same thing. The only place I’ve heard of that is in news articles about China.

Oh my, you need to get out more. Banks are putting scores on us. Big tech social media is increasing or decreasing “visibility” of people on social media according to their political views.
This is no different than assigning scores to people by how their beliefs align with the big tech oligarchs.
It’s happening in more & more places.

We are becoming more & more like China all the time.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #127  
Oh my, you need to get out more. Banks are putting scores on us. Big tech social media is increasing or decreasing “visibility” of people on social media according to their political views.
This is no different than assigning scores to people by how their beliefs align with the big tech oligarchs.
It’s happening in more & more places.

We are becoming more & more like China all the time.
This is the closest thing I come to social media… aside from TBN I read the local news, check my email and pay my bills.
Besides, I am at a point in my life that I just don’t care what other people think.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #128  
Speaking of teachers….
Was talking to my wife the other night about her incoming class this year and behavior of kids in past years.

20 years ago when my wife started teaching, she would get a class of 20 kids and 1 or 2 would be misbehaved. She and her co-teachers now lament that a class of 20 kids today has 1 or 2 well behaved kids and 18 or 19 brats!
During conferences, she says she has noticed a lot of dysfunction in families in recent years. Kids forced to look at I-Pads with headphones from the age of 2, no socialization skills. Then the school gets that and they are a freakin mess. Parents “out to lunch” and more worried about the social media scores than raising good kids.
Same goes for college students.
My Wife teaches med students and it’s unbelievable the amount of entitled, lazy brats that think they don’t have to do the work and demand that they get preferential treatment.
They whine and complain to my wife’s boss who just laughs at the ridiculousness of the students attitudes.
In order to pass these classes they have to do the work just like everyone else to graduate.
Some of them obviously never heard the word no from anyone so they should get whatever they want when they throw a tantrum.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #129  
Oh my, you need to get out more. Banks are putting scores on us. Big tech social media is increasing or decreasing “visibility” of people on social media according to their political views.
This is no different than assigning scores to people by how their beliefs align with the big tech oligarchs.
It’s happening in more & more places.

We are becoming more & more like China all the time.
Best thing I ever did was get a new phone.
My YouTube account wont work anymore and I lost my password.
I could easily recover my account but anything that has google tendrils all over it I’ve decided to opt out of.
Ive been so much happier not getting involved in political discussions on YouTube.
Ive also given up on an honest politician ever.
Ive been of voting age for more than 30 years now and I can smell a rat politician, a slogan and BS miles away.
I watched only a little
Of the Republican debates the other night and the absolute ridiculousness and same old Bs games made me sick to my stomach.
They’re all freaking lying scum bags.
They always make grand promises to get elected then once in they turn into establishment tyrants and thumb their nose at us and change our grandchildren’s futures for the worse.
What is even more sickening are the morons in the crowd that cheer after they’re prepared little speeches and talking points.
Made me want to puke.
I vowed not to give a flying F bomb about politics and do all I can to prepare my family for as much as I possibly can without having to rely on anyone or anything especially these commie bastards in Washington that do nothing but pander to the elites.
In full Sarah Connor mode for the past 30 years.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #130  
This is the closest thing I come to social media… aside from TBN I read the local news, check my email and pay my bills.
Besides, I am at a point in my life that I just don’t care what other people think.
Funny you mention TBN as social media. Because you certainly DO have a score here ..lol

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   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #131  
The aggrieved victimhood and perceived impending doom is inherent to the person. People have a choice. "Scoring" is what one makes of it. Or does one think that does not happen in everyday person to person interactions?
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #132  
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #133  
The aggrieved victimhood and perceived impending doom is inherent to the person. People have a choice. "Scoring" is what one makes of it. Or does one think that does not happen in everyday person to person interactions?

Only a damned fool would think 32 Trillion in debt wasn’t “impending doom”.
I have no choice but to be doomed by it, and my kids, grandkids and every generation that comes after I’m takin my dirt nap.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability.
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#134  
A social media score? You living under a rock? That’s the predicted score for professional sports game isn’t it? You know, the Lakers and the Bucks under on 230 total points on your bet. ;)
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #135  
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #136  
I think this thread has gone really off from the original complaint, but I guess I'll address the original complaint. If there are trees in the ROW, in front of your house, even dead, why would you cut them? They aren't your trees, they aren't on your property, they are on County/City/State land/ROW, and they probably have a contractor who is supposed to address them. Call it in, but don't go cutting another property owners trees. Storm drains, once again, that's not your property. Heck, mowing, if you want to, by all means, but someone else is being paid to do it. Yes, there is liability to it, but also, I'm sure wherever you are, there are rules against unpermitted work in the ROW. I know you think you are doing them a favor, but in reality, you probably aren't.

In Florida, on a state road, you are responsible for your own driveway (access), but that state is responsible for mowing, cleaning the culvert (side drain), trimming trees for overhead clearance, removing hazardous trees, fixing shoulder drop offs, ect. And, I'll add, there is a contractor being paid to do it. If it's not being done, it's probably cause they don't know about it. There are thousands of miles of roadway/right of way, and it's not always patrolled well. They really don't want homeowners to be out on a highway cutting trees, cleaning inlets, ect. The homeowners are most likely not using traffic control, probably don't really know what they are doing, and Very well might make a situation worse, and are likely a hazard to themselves and the traveling public.

Also, yes, the person cutting the states tree could be responsible for paying for the tree. Drop a tree on a power line? Bushhog a phone cross box you didn't know was in there? Destroy a fiber hand hole that is covered by grass while trying to grade a drain issue? Heck, drop that dead tree on a traveling car? No thanks.

All that said, yes, I have cut weep holes in the built up grass shoulder of my neighborhood county road, to get the ponding off the road. I also mow the ROW infront of my property sometimes, but I don't go to the effort to make their ditch look like a yard.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #137  
I will add, if your not familiar, with anything roadway, and government in general; they pretty much address complaints. If you don't call and tell them, don't expect it to get taken care of. If you wonder why some dirt roads get graded more than others, it drive by citizen complaint. If noone on that road calls to complain, it's not going to get graded. I'm not saying complain non-stop, but if you have legit concerns, call them, they work for you. Also, you have to understand they probably aren't legally allowed to do things on private property. That's not being lazy on their part. They can't fill that pot hole 5 feet on your side of ROW in your drive, and people can and do get fired for that kinda stuff. Tree falls from On your property into road, they will remove the part in the road/clear zone, and maybe in the ROW, but not the part on your side.
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #138  
I officially adopted a city storm drain and recurved an official city rake to aid in my duty...
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #139  
On liability, I'll share a story that happened to me about two years ago. I'm on the side of the road, at work, watching a horizontal direction drill (bore) under a rural sectional of a state road. Phone company's contractor project manager and several workers onsite. Lady pulls up, and gets out in scrubs. She says she is a home health tech, and her patient just down the side road fell out of a wheel chair. "He's fine, he's just too heavy for me to lift". Me and project manager agree at first, "give us 5 minutes". Then I second think it, and tell the other guy, I'm on the clock, I really can't expose the company to the liability. He agrees too. Tell wife that evening (she's an ICU RN), she says, if the home health tech can't lift him, she should call 911. You definitely shouldn't help.

Sounds messed up, but that "harmless good deed" that takes 5 minutes, is probably best case, going to escalate into an hour long ordeal, and could easily turn into a law suite. I can hear it now, from a company point of view; you stole time from company, and exposed us to extreme risk, for what reason?
 
   / Are people lazy, don’t know how to help or scared of liability. #140  
Another incident; working on a road (think it was some sewer relocation, but its been probably 8 years ago, and 2000 projects ago). See a car driving NB (we are on a side road, on the SB side) driving irradically, hits median curb, cuts across 3 lanes of traffic, over curb/sidewalk, into a creek, about 12 ft below road grade. I run over, and have someone call 911. Car is upside down, in the creek, but only a foot or so of water. Car is still running, and in drive. Passenger crawls out smashed passager window. Wife is hanging in seat belt, upside down, but looks un-injured. Try to open door, it's bent and stuck. Grab a manhole hook to smash window (think crowbar like impliment), passenger/husband doesn't speak English, and doesn't understand "put it in park and turn off car"; and doesn't want me to break window... at that point, you just go back to Your job. Probably wouldn't be smart to get her out anyways, I'm not a medical person...

Now, if Car was on fire, or she was drowning, it would have been different.
 

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