Buying Advice Cab or no cab?

   / Cab or no cab? #231  
Bad smell?? maybe somebody rubbed some Limburger cheesee
on the exhaust manifold??? I can remember somebody did this
to a girls car in high school was she pissed!!!!!!! You can't wash it
off you have to burn it off!

Maybe some more humor????


willy
Come off it, Willy. Quit with the chinglish links. I know you do it because it seems funny. I agree, it IS sort of funny to experienced tractor owners.
But if you keep posting that nonsense, someone somewhere is going to start believing it.
 
   / Cab or no cab? #232  
Wow.... Seems to be written in Chinglish by a defunctional AUI (artificial unintelligence). I read it, and thank you for that link, but it really doesn't appear to be a credible source of information either pro or con
Rich, I sent you a private message.
 
   / Cab or no cab? #233  
Go with cab and you'll never look back. Even without the cab you still be ducking tree limbs. Cab will let you work in the heat, cold, or rain (assuming no lighting). Sure will be nice to climb out.of the cab clean and ready for dinner.

Also consider going with a higher horsepower. A wise man once told me you really can't by a tractor that is to large, but can by one that is to small.
 
   / Cab or no cab? #234  
OK, so this will be my first tractor, IF I do buy one. Maybe my last one, too, as I turned 73 recently and don't imagine this will be a periodic thing for me to do over my remaining years.

BTW, my apologies if this is posted in the wrong place. I looked for a section for newbie style questions, but didn't find one.

I am located in north Florida. 50 acres of mostly heavily wooded land. Getting to where doing minor clearing manually is no longer as much fun as it used to be. I had a heart attack last year. Wife has diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer last year. Yeah 2022 REALLY sucked. So, things are stacking against us to be doing a lot of (any?) heavy lifting. I don't know how much and for how long I will have my wife's help when I just need an extra pair of hands. And the hands and arms I have just ain't what they used to be, neither. A couple of weeks ago when I wanted to move a concrete bird bath across the yard, that got me to REALLY thinking that something to help me with the lifting would have been nice to have. Something like an engine hoist on wheels, even.

So I believe I need motorized help. Friend of mine has a tractor and has come over several times to help me with some things. He would just shake his head and tell me he doesn't understand why I haven't bought a tractor a long time ago. "Good exercise" I would tell him, doing this all manually. But things have changed. Of course he says he will always be here to help me, but he has his own medical problems and I can't expect to keep leaning on him for tractor help.

Here in north Florida, we have a few seasons where riding an open tractor into the woods might not be a pleasant experience. Yellow fly season, mosquito season, hot and humid season, and the fall ground nesting habits of yellow jackets are always an unpleasant surprise. Oh yeah, and those large spiders forming webs at unexpected places between the trees. Not keen on getting those webs wrapped around my face. All seem to point to having a cab on a tractor so I could keep on tractoring, regardless of those environmental hurtles and unpleasant surprises.

But I have some doubts. I want a smaller tractor, likely one of the less than 25 horsepower models. My plan is to clear AROUND most of the trees, not try to knock them over or dig them up. So small size would help with that. Now, I know air conditioning robs horsepower from any engine it is attached to. How much would the air conditioning in a cab on a 25 horsepower tractor impact the usefulness of the thing? Wouldn't make much sense to have to choose between using the AC or running a flail mower when needed, if the tractor didn't have the power to run both simultaneously, now would it? So is there a MINIMUM horsepower rating for a tractor engine below which having a cab with AC is just pure folly?

And there is the issue of driving through woods with the cab. Are they designed to take some arguments with tree branches and not get damaged excessively? The way I am thinking about it, I WILL have tree branches to contend with. But it is not too bad. Mostly small saplings that I would want to take out anyway. Pine trees tend to put their branches up high around here. I guess I would rather have those branches scraping and slapping at the cab rather than my head and upper body. And I suppose the ROP guard would likely catch many of them anyway, just hopefully not bending them forward and down to knock my hat off. I guess I could take the time with a polesaw to take out many of the lower branches, but that puts me back in the environmental concerns that had me thinking about getting the cab in the first place. Walking through the woods with a pole saw would not be any more fun than driving through the woods at those above mentioned challenging seasons.

Are the doors and windows of these cabs field replaceable repairs? And are they made of actual glass (perhaps impact resistant?) or just some plastic that would get scratched all to hell from the branches?

Just a silly idea wanting to get a small tractor with a cab anyway? Suck it up, buttercup, face the elements and take the scars? Or just sell the place and go live in a condo on the beach and forget about the whole thing?

Yeah, I know. Expecting answers mostly beginning with "Well, it depends......."
Well, it depends :)
A no-cab tractor gives a much better view and your windows are always clean. Faster to get in and out too. I like that.
But a cab gives you protection from rain and mosquitoes and tree twigs (I would not worry do much about twigs hitting your window: if no window they would hit your face instead.
It really does not sound like you are ready for the beach but you should buy something with good resale vaalue because things can change quickly.
You do you. If you need 25 HP, buy a 30 HP with AC. Or bigger. But all the under 60 tractors nowadays seem to be of the lawn and garden variety. Not like our trusty old 60 hp JD. Should never have bought a new one :(
 
   / Cab or no cab? #235  
So many first time tractor buyers want to make their first tractor their final tractor purchase. It just doesn't often work that way. Experience is everything. At least rent one for awhile. If it were possible to make that decision perfectly the first time we wouldn;t have so many different opinions here on TBN.

And if you do find one that seems right - even if it is a used one - consider keeping it awhile. Long enough to get to know it. Good tractors last a long time.

rScotty
 
   / Cab or no cab? #236  
Also consider going with a higher horsepower. A wise man once told me you really can't by a tractor that is to large, but can by one that is to small.
Not true in many cases.
When choosing tractors, one should not go by generalizations.
If selling tractors , one is doing a disservice to the customer by not going through a plethora of criteria pertinent to the BUYER and no one else.
 
   / Cab or no cab? #237  
Wrestled with this question myself lately. According to my dealer's advertising, and not something I know myself, the dealer's ad claims the TYM T394C is the lowest priced cab tractor with HST in the 35-45HP range in the USA. It's powered by a 37 hp yanmar engine, and the lowest price I found on the HST in Middle TN was $29,000. The 48 hp T474 cab is powered by a Kukje all mechanical engine, and the price of that is running a few thousand more. There are those who prefer the all mechanical engine as being easier to repair and those that feel the extra HP is worth the extra price.

Running into tree branches with a cab is going to result in something broken on the cab and that's going to cost you money to repair.

If you are going to cut a bunch of tree branches or have downed limbs to deal with, then get the third function added to your tractor and buy a grapple so you can use your tractor to move the limbs and trees. This will be a great labor saver for you. You can buy a small grapple from MTL attachments for $1,400 or you can spend more and get a larger one.
 
   / Cab or no cab? #238  
So many first time tractor buyers want to make their first tractor their final tractor purchase. It just doesn't often work that way. Experience is everything. At least rent one for awhile. If it were possible to make that decision perfectly the first time we wouldn;t have so many different opinions here on TBN.

And if you do find one that seems right - even if it is a used one - consider keeping it awhile. Long enough to get to know it. Good tractors last a long time.

rScotty
And here 's where a knowledgeable sales staff comes to the fore.
One should not simply "sell" tractors if in sales.
One should have ample experience in "using" tractors within the region they are selling tractors or else one has no business in sales imo.
It is not enough to simply ask the customer how they will use their machine. At times, they don't even know what they'll get into.
If the customer states one of their criteria as "I want it to plow snow", then the next question is "what are you plowing"? That will make a difference as to suggesting a sub compact or an 8000Lb machine to say nothing of the terrain, type of snow removal equipment and importantly, the physical condition of the customer.

There should be a lot to it if selling tractors and lengthy conversations to uncover possible hidden agendas of the customer that they themselves may not be aware of.
Taking the time w the consumer allows the first choice more of a chance of being correct.
 
   / Cab or no cab?
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#239  
Also consider going with a higher horsepower. A wise man once told me you really can't by a tractor that is to large, but can by one that is to small.

Well, it depends. If I get a tractor too large to get into areas I want it to get into, that could be a problem. I have already upped the ante quite a bit from what I was looking for originally, since a smaller tractor with a cab with AC seems to be a problem on several levels. So I have had to make compromises. Probably the best attachment I should be looking for is a tractor shoehorn so I can squeeze between trees and under some branches. :)
 
   / Cab or no cab? #240  
Congrats on the choice of a T474, I have had mine for 3 years now. I have 396h with no issues on mine, I do all the services on it myself and have made a few toobe videos on this. Right now my TYM is tucked away 35 miles from home due to threat of forest fire 4 miles from my house.
 

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