what do I need ? (hydraulics)

[Rockbadchild]

Hi everyone

I am looking for what this thing would be called, where to find it and things to consider ... I bought a snow blower and it has two function on the chute (up down), one for the tilt (two hoses) and one for the chute rotation(left or right) (a other two hoses so 4 in total) ... I can't add more function to my tractor so that's not a option. What I am picturing is a directional valve from my third function spool, so two hoses that goes to a ''box'' manual directional valve that would go to one set of hoses or the other for one or the other function. Worse come the worse I don't need to chute function but it would be nice if I can make this work.

 

[dusty3030]

What tractor are you mounting it on and what all hydraulic valves are on it now.

 

[Rockbadchild]

What tractor are you mounting it on and what all hydraulic valves are on it now.

Its a Massey Ferguson 2706e and I have a two functions spool with PB that feed a second single spool with PB that feed my 3point.. I only use the single function spool for my grappler and I want to uses that for the snow blower. so I have these two hoses (one function) available.

 

[oldnslo]

If you put a diverter in the 3rd function work port you could then operate two functions from your third function. Not sure if you need 3rd function for some other feature when using the blower though.

 

[Rockbadchild]

If you put a diverter in the 3rd function work port you could then operate two functions from your third function. Not sure if you need 3rd function for some other feature when using the blower though.

No I don't need the third function during the winter, it is available, and yes that's what I want to do but just simply install two diverters and link the lever together ? do they make them link together already so two port to 4 in one units.

 

[alexpops]

I think Summit has some combination of port multipliers & solenoids that could be done to give you all the functions you want off of your third function or RR's. might not be as easy as running everything from the third function, but a combination of third function & manual switches for chute rotation might get you their.

 

[LD1]

Why dont you want to put a true remote or dual remote setup on the tractor?

The expensive option would be a electric/hydraulic multiplier. Where they would "normally" plug into ONE set of remotes and give you TWO outputs. Like this Hydraulic Multiplier Kit, SCV Splitter Diverter Valve Including Couplers and Switch Box Control

Less expensive would be a manual version Manual Hydraulic Multiplier, SCV Splitter / Diverter Valve Kit with Couplers

Or a simple mechanical selector/diverter valve but you would have to source your own fittings and may not be any cheaper than the above

Selector

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[Rockbadchild]

Why dont you want to put a true remote or dual remote setup on the tractor?

Less expensive would be a manual version Manual Hydraulic Multiplier, SCV Splitter / Diverter Valve Kit with Couplers

this was exactly what I was picturing, thank ... true dual remote, like rear remote ? My understanding is that would be pretty expensive and labor extensive.

 

[LD1]

My understanding is that would be pretty expensive and labor extensive.

Depends on the tractor and where/how it can be mounted. (valves and couplers). Also your level of hydraulic understanding.

I know its been about 7 years now.....so pre-covid-flation. But I put 3 remotes on the back of my tractor for under $500

 

[dusty3030]

I’d just mount a two spool loader type valve to the fender or on rops whichever side you turn around in the seat to run blower. Run power beyond from third function valve to it then from it to 3 point. It would be very intuitive to control blower with a single lever.

Valve

 

[Rockbadchild]

Depends on the tractor and where/how it can be mounted. (valves and couplers). Also your level of hydraulic understanding.

I know its been about 7 years now.....so pre-covid-flation. But I put 3 remotes on the back of my tractor for under $500

ho wow ... Before I installed my second valve I ask a dealer about the rear remote and they where talking about $1500 plus labor... the rear remote kit that I see online is basically the same as a third function kit... I don't know much about it to be honest but by looking at my pump it doesn't look like there is plug spair port on my pump...

 

[Rockbadchild]

I’d just mount a two spool loader type valve to the fender or on rops whichever side you turn around in the seat to run blower. Run power beyond from third function valve to it then from it to 3 point. It would be very intuitive to control blower with a single lever.

Valve

Well I wouldn't need to do that since I don't use my thirds function spool valve during the winter. But along the line of what you are saying I could change my single spool with a double then I would be good to go... the manual hydraulic multiplier is $350 so not much cheaper then a two spool function valve.

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[alexpops]

You wouldn't use the pump directly, rather the power beyond port from your loader or RR. Basically, you run them in series, and when the pressure/flow is needed on one port it is available. Would also need to replumb the tank return line.

 

[LD1]

Yea, you use a power beyond port.

Since you already have a loader....the ports on the tractor become simplified. the only line you need to "ADD" is a tank line.

You simply take the PB port coming out of the loader.....follow where ever it is going to. This hose marks both the P and PB of the new valve.

In otherwords....you currently have your loader valve pb probably going to the tractor somewhere. Take that PB and make it go to the new valve.....and the PB out of the new valve goes to wherever that old hose went on the tractor. Then simply add the tank line which can be tee'd into an existing tank line.

Then its just the work ports of the valve going to the remotes.

Figuring out the hydraulics is the easy part.....finding a place to mount the valve and handles as well as couplers is where it can get challenging and may need some good fabrication skills.

I am sure parts have gone up in the 7 years since I did mine, but there is a link in my signature to what/how I did mine

 

[alexpops]

Even if you don't use their parts, check out the Summit hydraulics site. They have links to install schematics to show you parts/layouts needed under different configurations. educational if nothing else. Then, depending on budget, either use their electric solution/manual solution or buy parts at surplus center & discount hose & cobble it together

 

[Rockbadchild]

Yea, you use a power beyond port.

Since you already have a loader....the ports on the tractor become simplified. the only line you need to "ADD" is a tank line.

You simply take the PB port coming out of the loader.....follow where ever it is going to. This hose marks both the P and PB of the new valve.

In otherwords....you currently have your loader valve pb probably going to the tractor somewhere. Take that PB and make it go to the new valve.....and the PB out of the new valve goes to wherever that old hose went on the tractor. Then simply add the tank line which can be tee'd into an existing tank line.

Then its just the work ports of the valve going to the remotes.

Figuring out the hydraulics is the easy part.....finding a place to mount the valve and handles as well as couplers is where it can get challenging and may need some good fabrication skills.

I am sure parts have gone up in the 7 years since I did mine, but there is a link in my signature to what/how I did mine

thanks you LDI, ok I will check your link, you are as useful as usual, I appreciate it.