Minnesota to try and ban gas powered equipment

[Hay Dude]

1/4 million doesn’t even buy a USED 300HP farm tractor anymore.

 

[Snobdds]

The Climate has become a religious calling to many...

 

[ddbackhoe]

Hey! You stole/let the cat out of the bag, my idea of a second income:

Small gas powered lawn/garden equipment bootlegger...

Thats better. Haul premix in a fertilzer sprayer?

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Hey! You stole/let the cat out of the bag, my idea of a second income:

Small gas powered lawn/garden equipment exporter...

Just like firework sales. Can sell them, just illegal to set them off. Amazing how many fireworks sold that will never get set off.

 

[jyoutz]

1/4 million????

Thats a 2019 price.

Depends on the machine and new or used. Some of the smaller feller bunchers with rubber tires can be had for $250k. The tracked excavators with rotary saw heads and bunching and delimber abilities run 3-4 times that amount. Most gyppo loggers would be looking at used rubber tire machines. On the other hand, some of the Ponzi machines for working steep slopes are well over $1-2M.

 

[Beeenvenue]

When we had our property logged a couple years ago, they used chainsaws. 80 acres of hardwood. They had 1 skidder and an ATV. That old man taught me alot on cutting. He took the time to explain some of the more important details.

Pulp wood guys came in with a feller

I guess that feller was totin’ a chainsaw? (Sorry, southern drawl/dad joke attempt)

 

[Joel/ak]

This feller sat in this same spot for a couple months. Kept breaking down and they would fix it and break again.

They were supposed to be done in middle summer, all of a sudden they just disappeared, equipment was still there just no workers. 3rd day of hunting season, wife sitting in her ground blind and sure as crap, here comes the pulp mill. She went ballistic on them. They wouldn't answer our calls or call us back all fall to let us know the status of work, etc.

 

[Hay Dude]

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This feller sat in this same spot for a couple months. Kept breaking down and they would fix it and break again.

They were supposed to be done in middle summer, all of a sudden they just disappeared, equipment was still there just no workers. 3rd day of hunting season, wife sitting in her ground blind and sure as crap, here comes the pulp mill. She went ballistic on them. They wouldn't answer our calls or call us back all fall to let us know the status of work, etc.

No excuse for THAT, but thats a boom & bust business, just like farming.
Some of us are one major breakdown away from not being able to operate.

 

[Joel/ak]

Breaking down didn't bother me. I was a heavy mechanic for 24 years before I went a different route 10 years ago, I know how it goes with costs, parts availability etc.

What made us mad was no communication. It's MI, don't just show up 3 days into hunting season. They had my number and my wife's. All they had to do was call once in a while and give updates, my wife would have slept in that morning. I was trying to get ahold of them about every other day for about 2 months.

Then their truck driver flipped their pup trailer on our road/ two track. Got into it with him, he was trying to blame me after he admitted to going to fast and he caught the shoulder. Sucked that thing right in.

Then they collapsed one of our covert openings. I had them marked with stakes and paint and they put a stack right on top of it. Road flooded and said we had to fix the culvert. That didn't go over well, corporate said they would take care of it.

It was an experience dealing with that mill.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^
That's a different perspective than I'm used to. We contract to have the wood cut, then contract separately with each mill to buy it.
Smaller landowners sell stumpage, but normally that's to a private contractor who then sells to the highest priced buyer.