Gov't mandates gas can flame arrestors.

[cqaigy2]

I can't click on that...wish it would work.

Amazon link.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

That is the deal here. Political discussions are off limits.

The problem is defining what is political. Everyone sees it different. Some would claim the very topic of the thread is political.

My very old gas cans with a built in vent have a screen on them.

 

[2manyrocks]

If the spark arresting screens work as well as the spill proof cans have worked................

 

[MossRoad]

I don't understand your rationale. USA was dirty before EPA and now is much cleaner. I'd rather live where i can drink water, breath air, eat food and my grandkids can do the same. But i'm probably not going to toss the baby out with the bath water, so there is that.

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That set should cover it.

 

[tractortroof]

I have spilled so much gas with these wonderful gas can improvements…I would think the big government was wanting to make sure 10 % of fuel ended up on the ground….lol

 

[jyoutz]

I don't understand your rationale. USA was dirty before EPA and now is much cleaner. I'd rather live where i can drink water, breath air, eat food and my grandkids can do the same. But i'm probably not going to toss the baby out with the bath water, so there is that.

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I recall hearing about rivers catching fire and witnessing and smelling the polluted air in the 1970s. Cities had a brown haze hanging over it everywhere. Since the Nixon administration promoted and congress passed the clean air and water acts (creating EPA) all of those things are just a memory. I’m glad that my sons don’t have to experience this.

 

[tractortroof]

I recall hearing about rivers catching fire and witnessing and smelling the polluted air in the 1970s. Cities had a brown haze hanging over it everywhere. Since the Nixon administration promoted and congress passed the clean air and water acts (creating EPA) all of those things are just a memory. I’m glad that my sons don’t have to experience this.

Yes, we are all thankful we don’t live in China, but there gas can thing is stupid, it won’t help a thing. You ever spill gas as a result of using the current no vent nozzles?

 

[Hay Dude]

I recall hearing about rivers catching fire and witnessing and smelling the polluted air in the 1970s. Cities had a brown haze hanging over it everywhere. Since the Nixon administration promoted and congress passed the clean air and water acts (creating EPA) all of those things are just a memory. I’m glad that my sons don’t have to experience this.

Then there’s this thing called over regulation.
Now we import all our steel, medicines and food now. Look where your truck was made.

See how that works?
Anyone buy a Blitz gas can lately? I can’t seem to find one anywhere….

 

[MossRoad]

Then there’s this thing called over regulation.
Now we import all our steel, medicines and food now. Look where your truck was made.

See how that works?
Anyone buy a Blitz gas can lately? I can’t seem to find one anywhere….

Blitz was sued to death. Nothing to do with over regulation. They just couldn't afford to fight any more lawsuits, in part because....

"the, “litigation” stemmed from more than 75 known incidents of people severely burned or killed when a Blitz gas can exploded. Fourteen people were burned to death, six of them children. With millions of these gas cans still in use around the country, the injuries and deaths are expected to continue. While the company faced overwhelming negative test results about the defects in the cans, they chose to ignore them and move forward with manufacturing them as they were, rather than amending the problematic design."

from here: It's interesting reading.

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BTW, I have 3 of their 6-gallon plastic cans that I've had for more than 20 years. They knew there was a problem, with that many injuries and deaths. They could have changed it for pennies per can and chose not to. Yes, people misused their product. But why did the company put themselves in that position once they knew their product was easily mis-used and there was a simple, inexpensive solution? Poor management.

 

[2manyrocks]

How was the Blitz can any more "defective" than any other plastic gas can other than it was the biggest manufacturer and probably sold more units than other companies due to it being sold in Walmart making it the biggest deep pocket to be sued until they finally sued them under?

It remains to be proven if putting a flame arrestor on any gas can will actually prevent injuries from idiots pouring gas on an open fire.

If the flame arrestor actually works, then perhaps it may be worth it unlike the stupid anti-spill spouts that, if accurately studied, cause more gas to be spilled and vented into the air than the simple spouts that everyone used for decades. However, I am not going to pour gas on an open fire regardless.

 

[jyoutz]

Right, and thats the way it should be. Crossing from one country into another should be carefully monitored. Thank God in some places it is, because the fentanyl and other illegal drugs being brought here is an atrocity.

It would seem rather stupid to hunt along a border where so many illegal crossings are happening. What if someone mistook a border agent in the brush hunting for illegal crossers for a jackwabbit? Probably much smarter that you went elsewhere.

And yet millions still slip by each year. Seems we set records every month for crossings more and more lately?
Wonder how that works, especially with your keen eyes confirming it takes hours to cross the border legally.

Maybe they have a Star Trek “transporter”?
Beam me up to the USA, land of safe gas cans.

Look up New Mexico Oryx hunting and where the hunting units are: they are next to white sands along the border. That’s where people hunt them. Yes there are issues with drug smuggling and always will be as long as there is a U.S. market. They also come through the coasts and Canada. (Which indeed has an open border). Most undocumented people are here for jobs, not drug smuggling. A lot of them come here on short term visas and don’t leave because our system is broken and congress won’t fix it. And employers are never prosecuted for hiring these people, so it continues. There is no requirement to use e-verify for hiring, so it’s voluntary. A lot of things that congress needs to fix, but they don’t.

 

[jyoutz]

I agree the gas can thing is stupid. But so is the dirty environmental conditions that were cleaned up. The EPA should be called out on stupid gas can things, but to suggest it shouldn’t exist means we will be back in the dirty 70s again.

 

[Hay Dude]

I agree the gas can thing is stupid. But so is the dirty environmental conditions that were cleaned up. The EPA should be called out on stupid gas can things, but to suggest it shouldn’t exist means we will be back in the dirty 70s again.

There can be an EPA, but it should come with a balanced mentality.
Regulating entire American manufacturing sectors out of existence isn’t exactly what I’d call balanced.

Maybe include a one time use flame suit with every plastic gas can?

 

[Username Taken]

I don't understand your rationale. USA was dirty before EPA and now is much cleaner. I'd rather live where i can drink water, breath air, eat food and my grandkids can do the same. But i'm probably not going to toss the baby out with the bath water, so there is that.

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Thanks, just put it on my wish list...

 

[MossRoad]

How was the Blitz can any more "defective" than any other plastic gas can ...

Never said it was. Just reporting on the facts of what happened to Blitz.

 

[2manyrocks]

Lawyers would say it is foreseeable that idiots won’t use the suits.

I wouldn’t be shocked if the gas can makers sort of want the CPSC to mandate flame arrestors so they all have to provide them. But I also suspect they think people are still going to be stupid enough to throw gas onto a fire and sue them anyway.

The thing that taints the idea of mandated fire arrestors is the bad experience most everyone has had with the mandated spill proof nozzles even though they are two different things.

 

[2manyrocks]

Never said it was. Just reporting on the facts of what happened to Blitz.

I was just posing the question why they were any different than other gas can makers. IDK if there were other factors that made Blitz face so much litigation. Of all the cans I own, theirs seem to pour the best.

Just speculating because I don’t know the engineering aspects here, but perhaps any can design that allows fuel to flow well also allows vapors to flow more easily? The concern for me would be if they impose another change to fuel cans to attempt to remedy the flame Arrestor situation that makes it even harder to pour fuel if that is even possible after they put spill proof spouts on the cans.

 

[Username Taken]

Why do diesel cans need the same regulations? Last I checked, diesel wasn't nearly as flammable as gasoline. Not even close. Not even a little bit close. Not in the same ball park. Not in the same galaxy.

So why does the EPA have such a hard-on for anything diesel?

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[K5lwq]

I wonder what regulations will be put on the electron cans for the new EVs?

 

[MossRoad]

Why do diesel cans need the same regulations? Last I checked, diesel wasn't nearly as flammable as gasoline. Not even close. Not even a little bit close. Not in the same ball park. Not in the same galaxy.

So why does the EPA have such a hard-on for anything diesel?

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Because people put gasoline in diesel cans, diesel in gasoline cans, gas in water jugs, etc. Heck, you can find many mentions of TBN members doing just that.