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[Jstpssng]

So, Tesla Model S has been in production for 10 years and we finally hear of one which will not charge at 19°F. You conclude, "EVs are not dependable" based on sample of 1.

I've known plenty of ICE to fail to start at 70°F.

My EV is set to "be ready" at 6:00AM. It is charged every morning and ready at 6:00AM. And sometimes I tell it to warm the cabin in advance too, which it does while still connected not affecting battery range.

Show me where I said that. I merely disputed your comment that 19 degrees is cold.

 

[Grumpycat]

Show me where I said that. I merely disputed your comment that 19 degrees is cold.

You said your ICE was dependable in context bragging an EV was not.

 

[goeduck]

I'm surprised those pickup campers with so much weight up high don't pop a wheelie with all the acceleration of today's engines.

 

[cqaigy2]

I'm surprised those pickup campers with so much weight up high don't pop a wheelie with all the acceleration of today's engines.

Would it pop a wheelie if using 4 wheel drive?

 

[Boss 302]

Since it's a Dodge, my guess is rust.

 

[Fallon]

Would it pop a wheelie if using 4 wheel drive?

4wd is somewhat irrelevant to popping a wheely.

4wd would add weight, especially to the front axle, making it less likely. But if the rears have enough traction & you have enough power you can do it. Center of gravity has a fair bit to do with it as well. Drag cars are only 2wd & have wheels bars for a reason. They are long for the leverage to keep the front end down, but have very little traction up there to make it worth the extra weight for 4wd.

Much less traction up front on acceleration. Inversely 70% of all braking occurs on the front brakes because weight & traction transfer forward when you slow down.

 

[Fallon]

Lol this subject of frame failure has definitely enlightened my ignorance especially my previous thinking a set of air helper springs was a cure all for occasionally overloading, seeing a one ton cracked in half from a pickup camper was sobering for me anyway and I probably won't push my box framed 3/4 ton to it's limits like I have.

Ya, it's amazing how much engineering & material limits we take for granted. You think of heavy duty stuff as unbreakable up until you break it, or better yet get enlightened, often because somebody else broke something similar.

I overloaded my old F250 in ways that I wouldn't push my newer F350 now that I know better. Luckily I never broke anything & I figured stuff out from TBN & other sources. It's amazing how much you can still learn well past your 40s if you try. Heck, sometimes you don't even have to try, just keep an open mind.

 

[Jstpssng]

You said your ICE was dependable in context bragging an EV was not.

You read what you wanted to read... I can't help that.

 

[Jstpssng]

Ya, it's amazing how much engineering & material limits we take for granted. You think of heavy duty stuff as unbreakable up until you break it, or better yet get enlightened, often because somebody else broke something similar.

I overloaded my old F250 in ways that I wouldn't push my newer F350 now that I know better. Luckily I never broke anything & I figured stuff out from TBN & other sources. It's amazing how much you can still learn well past your 40s if you try. Heck, sometimes you don't even have to try, just keep an open mind.

I cracked the frame on an '85 Ranger... hauling horse manure. The springs on those old trucks were less than good anyways. It was only about a mile down the highway from the farm to my house so I put a block of wood between the rear axle and frame; then loaded it. It wasn't until that winter when I was changing u-joints that I saw the cracks... oops.

 

[California]

... 70% of all braking occurs on the front brakes because weight & traction transfer forward when you slow down.

I learned something watching Noraly - Itchy Boots - (motorcycle lady on every continent) when she went home for Covid and spent a day at the Dutch highway patrol academy. They put her on an expensive police bike and taught her how to dump it at high speed without injury, and some other stuff. She said on their patrol bikes all the braking is done with the right hand lever, with computer control over the back brake to keep the back tire from locking up while the front does close to 100% of the braking. I never knew this existed. But it makes sense to not have your leg down on a brake pedal, if you're going down. She also amazed them by completing their difficult offroad course on a light dirt bike, they said no new recruit had ever made it before. Amazing lady. Well worth watching.