The pucker factor has kicked in a few times even when I thought I was being careful - for me it is always a sudden thing - front wheel dips into an unseen hole on a slope, or raises over a rock. I agree that having a feel for the circumstances you are in is critical. What helps: going slow - i.e., matching the speed to the terrain, a low bucket, keep your hand on the stick, and being aware if there are holes or rocks you might run into or over.The nearness of the tipping point is in direct correlation to your butt pucker. If you don’t have that feel for what you are doing you don’t belong on a tractor
And flipping one on its side, is not a rollover.I was using heavy equipment for paying my tuition and was driving a tractor when I was sent over to mow a steep hill near a school in the morning. Well, there was heavy dew so it was very wet and I slid down all the way to the bottom, over and over and I wonder how they managed to mow such a hill but I got it done. Well the next morning the assistant asked who had mowed that hill and when I raised my hand he went into a long "lesson" on the dangers of rollovers and how lucky I wasnt killed, and chewed out the one who sent me as he said you can never mow a hill when its wet or early morning, so my first lesson in tractoring..
Yeah, I’ve always been amazed at some of the slopes that the highway department folks actually mow.The guys mowing the medians and sides of the highways is Vermont amaze me.
Vermont isn't called The Green Mountain state for no reason. Some of the slopes have got to be 20°, at least.
The tractors are large, cabbed utility machines...mostly red, so I'd guess they're Massey's. Some have dual wheels on the rear, some don't.
They all run across the slopes towing a good-sized rotary cutter (I'd estimate 10 footers ± a foot in width)
One of the advantages they have is the mower itself. Most are batwings that they use weigh 4,000-5,000 pounds. The front of that mower is pressing down on the hitch which is centered between the rear tires. Creates an added stability factor. They also have set the tires extremely wide.Yeah, I’ve always been amazed at some of the slopes that the highway department folks actually mow.
"The problem starts when someone starts driving the tractor in a situation they should not."EH?
I had proper technique. My tractor was pointing straight down hill. My load was marginal.
The tractor hit a patch of ice, slid to the side, like a jack knife. Over it went, because of the load shift.
I'd call that - an accident.
Lot of sage advice in your post.Tractor safety . . . the best resource I've found is right here, Tractor by Net.
When I got my tractor (2018), I read the "manual" and discovered there really wasn't much in it about tractor safety. I went to Google and found a couple of short articles about tractor safety, but they were very general. I found a few ag department courses on tractor safety, but they were in Minnesota or Michigan (I'm in Florida) and I hear it gets real cold up there so I ain't going.
What I'm seeing is a discouraging number of tractor accidents due to inexperience, ignorance, and sometimes, alas, to just plain dumbness. Darwin isn't very forgiving, accidents involving tractors can easily be serious or fatal.
Even if WE are careful, sometimes the people around us are not. I've had people walk between the tractor (with pallet forks) and the trailer I was unloading. I yelled at them to keep clear, they realized how dangerous it was, and then five minutes later, they did it again. I had to chase someone away who wanted to take pictures, told them to back up about 30 feet. They got huffy and said "nothing's going to happen" (must be nice to be able to predict the future) and backed up five whole feet, telling me they could get out of the way in time "if" there's a problem. I said unless you back up to over there, I'm not working any more. They got even huffier, but backed up.
I see people remove PTO safety guards because they are "a nuisance". I'm told losing an arm is a bigger nuisance, I know someone who did. I see people stepping over running PTO shafts because it would take three more seconds to go around. I see people getting off running tractors and not setting the parking brake or even shifting into neutral, when the real answer is if nobody is in the seat, the engine shouldn't be running and the parking brake should be on. I see people raise a bush hog to clear something out and not bother blocking it up before crawling underneath.
One of the more memorable nuggets I've gleaned from TBN was someone who said "Tractors are slow but they are inexorable." That's SO true . . .
What we really need to have available is a serious book about tractor safety, not just "hey, don't do X" but also WHY we shouldn't do X, and the results if someone does it anyway.
I can't write it, I'm still a newbie at this and there is no way I would even begin to describe myself as anything like an expert. What I CAN do is assemble it and make it into a book, then publish it. My main business since 1978 has been book publishing, and I'll modestly say I've done "OK" at it.
Whaddaya think?
Best Regards,
Mike/Florida
I've watched them. They look like they are just casually driving sideways but if the feel any shift, they turn downhill. It seems to work for them - not me. I won't sidehill.Yeah, I’ve always been amazed at some of the slopes that the highway department folks actually mow.