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Zero. In the state that has repeatedly been called the worst in the country.
My Dad had COPD for years but was still working and getting by until he got Covid. He passed away 2 weeks later.Does it, tho? Let's have another thread: How many people have you known "personally", who died from COVID-19...but who also had heart disease, diabetic complications, kidney disease, cancer, stroke, etc, which would have done them in anyways. Sooner than later.
"How many people do you know who were totally healthy and then got the vid and died?" Let's answer that, coz so far only a few people posting in this thread made such a claim.
Me first: I don't personally know anybody, who personally knows anybody, who that happened to. I'm sure it does though. People get bitten by sharks and hit by lightning, too.
Agreed. It's a pretty safe bet that if I hadn't moved 700 miles from where I lived the first 60 years of my life my answer would have included a higher number. I expect there are acquaintances back home no longer with us that I simply didn't hear about.I expect the respondent's average age is higher than the national average? This would lead me to believe the age of those in our life circle might also be higher? So, I was surprised the numbers are this low.
I'm <40, so should skew the number lower, but I only know one person.I deleted the posts that didn't quote a #, that left 101 posts reporting deaths. In those 101 posts, 130 deaths were reported. That would indicate 1.29 deaths per member average.
Again, I think this is a very low # considering the audience. I'm actually surprised by that.
First off, I'm very sorry for your loss, and no disrespect intended. I feel when talk about this, I may come off as a bit of a d*ck to those who are sick or lost people, so want to clarify that's totally not my intention. But with that said, people with COPD also died suddenly long before Covid showed up. A regular flu, pneumonia, all that sort of stuff kills people with chronic conditions like COPD or CHF all the time.My Dad had COPD for years but was still working and getting by until he got Covid. He passed away 2 weeks later.
My brother told me that Dad did not die from Covid it was COPD that killed him. No doubt Dad would have lived longer and continued to work if he had not gotten Covid. So what did my Dad die from?
I asked my brother if Dad was shot would he blame COPD for his death or would he want the guy that shot him to be held responsible? At the end of the day, Dad is gone so whatever helps my brother deal with that is fine by me but I say Dad died from Covid.
This is why I hate this has become such a political issue. It is what it is regardless what some want to believe.
First off, I'm very sorry for your loss, and no disrespect intended. I feel when talk about this, I may come off as a bit of a d*ck to those who are sick or lost people, so want to clarify that's totally not my intention. But with that said, people with COPD also died suddenly long before Covid showed up. A regular flu, pneumonia, all that sort of stuff kills people with chronic conditions like COPD or CHF all the time.
As for those posting about healthy people they know who got Covid and passed, again, previously healthy people do die w/o Covid's help. Pneumococcal pneumonia wipes out like 50k yearly, a big chunk of them being fairly healthy non-elderly adults. There's statistics for that which could be looked up and verified. But oddly, such statistics are not available for Covid, not with a quick search at least. Age is the driving stat for Covid, currently.
Nope, that's not me, I'm not saying people don't die from Covid. And, also not saying your father didn't die from it. Absolutely, there are people with manageable chronic conditions who would have lived for years had they not contracted Covid. But unfortunately (and it seems purposely), nearly all fatalities with a Covid+ status are lumped as a covid death, which raises some questions, right?I was not offended by your post but wanted to point out that yes, people died long before Covid and will die with or without Covid. But trying to blame anything else when a person dies with Covid is futile in my mind. I have no problem blaming Covid when all logic points in that direction.
I will say I am a very conservative person but I think for myself. I do not jump on a band wagon because others want to prove someone else wrong. No one has a problem saying someone died of cancer or a car wreck or whatever. Why is it so hard for some to say someone died of Covid? I just cannot wrap my head around that.
But what you are doing is taking this thread in a direction that neither the OP, the moderators nor a large percentage of the respondents intend or want it to go.Nope, that's not me, I'm not saying people don't die from Covid. And, also not saying your father didn't die from it. Absolutely, there are people with manageable chronic conditions who would have lived for years had they not contracted Covid. But unfortunately (and it seems purposely), nearly all fatalities with a Covid+ status are lumped as a covid death, which raises some questions, right?
The title of this thread; Please answer without comment" reminds me of the lawyer who asked a witness in court to "answer yes or no only" and then asked, "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
I see some answered this thread as instructed while others provided more information.![]()