Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no.

   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #11  
I wouldn't allow it on my property.

Also the late mention of shotguns tells me he views your terms as flexible.

I would simply tell him you reconsidered and decided against it.
 
   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #12  
The "oh and a friend and shotguns and a stand" after you already agreed to conditions should make it an immediate hard no. This guy clearly won't respect boundaries and his friends would be worse.
This right here
Bait & Switch

Tell him to
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   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #14  
We received a very nice letter requesting permission to hunt turkey's on our property with a bow and arrow - he provided references and all. I agreed to meet with him. We met yesterday. Very nice guy - apparently an experienced out-doors guy. I kind of wanted to help him out. I initially indicated that if we did permit it there would be a number of conditions which I listed. He agreed. So, I told him it would be okay but I would require him to sign a waiver and agreement acknowledging the conditions. He agreed. As he left he said he and a friend would also use shotguns at times, and wanted to set up a hunting stand - actually near our pond which is somewhat near the house, and wanted to come by this Sunday. I guess the suddenness of that sort of hit me with reality - we maintain a rather quiet and private existence here - this Sunday would be different! And concerned that this could 'grow' into his making this into a weekend destination-getaway for him and his friends. Easier to not start it up now rather than end it later when issues may arise.

Anyway, despite initially indicating my willigness to allow this with conditions (notifying us in advance, letting us know when he came on and when he left, etc.), I have rethought this. We would at times need to modify how we live to accommodate this. He would hunt on weekends which is when we hike the property, run with the dog, have guests over, take the tractor out to manage back road tasks, and sort of enjoy the peace with the family. There are animals around. I like to go go about anywhere on the property whenever I want to - his hunting and stands would be a hindrance, and not sure I want gun shot noise even if rare. And although my property insurance may not be affected - I don't want to take that chance.

I can think of many reasons not to do this and only one reason to do so, so I guess I am not really asking if I should do this as I am sort of certain I will call him to say, sorry, but no. Just asking for general advice and support for my decision - given that I already told him yes and now need to call him and say no.

Nope. I have refused many turkey and deer hunters. Too many bad stories to take that on.
 
   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #15  
Most of my land is homesite and cropland, the remaining third I consider a wildlife refuge.

we live in an area with a large variety of wildlife, they need some peace and quiet too. There is also a lot of hiking and horseback riding going on in the area.
No hunting allowed, thanks for asking though.
 
   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #16  
This would be a good situation to say “the boss” disagreed

:LOL::ROFLMAO:
 
   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #17  
The "oh and a friend and shotguns and a stand" after you already agreed to conditions should make it an immediate hard no. This guy clearly won't respect boundaries and his friends would be worse.
That got my attention also... and I generally come out in favor of allowing access.

To address concerns of liability, California and many other states have passed laws protecting landowners.
Here is a summary of what your state has in place;

Still, if I approach you for permission to bowhunt, and show up with a buddy and two shotguns, it would be because I hoped that you wouldn't say anything. My first thought was the same as Ning's... Bait and Switch. What other liberties are they going to take?
 
   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #18  
Still, if I approach you for permission to bowhunt, and show up with a buddy and two shotguns, it would be because I hoped that you wouldn't say anything. My first thought was the same as Ning's... Bait and Switch. What other liberties are they going to take?
Yeah, the fact that he mentioned setting up a stand and bringing a friend implies that he sees this as an open-ended agreement, not a one-time deal.
I've allowed people to hunt on my property in the past, but it was understood that their permission was for you, today, not whenever with whoever.
 
   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #19  
I only gave permission once, and the guy interpreted it as permission to poach on my property. Now it's posted No Hunting, which means not even I can hunt here.
 
   / Allow hunting. . . very inclined to say no. #20  
As he left he mentions another guy and shotguns. He should have said that straight away. If it was me I would not let him hunt just because of him not being straightforward from the get go. Shotguns are way different than bows and arrows. Two people are way different than one.
Eric
 

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