Time to check out the generator.

JasperFrank · Oct 13, 2021

ultrarunner said:
The issue I have is banning equipment already owned and many times required.

Case in point is California wildfires and steps property owners must take to be compliant...

One is brush cutting and a info packet shows a homeowner in proper safety gear in not dry conditions reducing fuel with a weed whacker...

This year can't do that unless battery powered...

So the very tools needed can't be used...

Ran it to that very problem this year in Western Central Oregon. Started an intensive project of removing the fuel load out of our wood lot this spring, inspired by a local wild fire, and a public request by the local fire fighting agencies that wood lot owners should bring down their fuel loads left over from a 100 year ice storm event, a few years ago.
I was about 90% done, when our whole area was shut down. Prematurely... in my opinion. Thought I'd have at least another week.
So one agency was saying to get this done, and another then said to stop. And it was the very same fire departments that came up the hill to enforce the ICE and burning ban.
Got 14 burn piles collected, sorted to wood stove rounds, and the rest burned in a controlled manner. Without the chainsaw, all I could do was drag out what I could and make two more burn piles, and wait till the open burn season re-opened.
It will be very weird on this 15th, Oct, cause everyone is going to start their piles at the same time, knowing there will be a ban the next day due to air quality issues.
I can not imagine the frustration of folks in California. Damned if you don't, damned if you do.
At first, I thought this thread was being hijacked. Now, I can see that they are all connected in a way. This has convinced me to get rid of the solar grid inter-tie and go to stand alone with some sort of battery system.
Wish some of the EV people would expand their minds a bit, to make the EV cars/trucks flexible enough to power a house, or at least agree on a defined standard.

JasperFrank · Oct 13, 2021

Try being on a school board if you have no children. People look at you like, "What possible reason would you want to be on a school board?" LOL.

ultrarunner · Oct 13, 2021

At one time generators had to be registered and ad time went on utility acknowledge a need for generators especially if or medical and water systems.

With emissions in play I have no idea what the answer is if you can't burn for heat/cook or use gasoline...

ljjhouser · Oct 13, 2021

Larry Caldwell said:
I was a part of the ZPG movement in the '70s, since it was obvious that population control was the only way the human race would avoid wrecking the planet. You would not believe the amount of hatred directed at anyone who suggested that the most effective way to reduce your environmental impact was to not reproduce.

Ha You are right. If you enter any state park or wilderness area, they stress - Please lessen the footprint you leave behind." And I agree with that. But that in itself is an admission the EVERY single person cannot exist without leaving an impact. More people, more impact. That should not be so difficult to understand. I live in the city and have a place in the woods. I love the solitude - I guess that is something that many do not get to experience.

ljjhouser · Oct 13, 2021

JasperFrank said:
Try being on a school board if you have no children. People look at you like, "What possible reason would you want to be on a school board?" LOL.

That would be the most thankless opportunity that could turn into a job you asked for but never wanted.

JasperFrank · Oct 13, 2021

ljjhouser said:
That would be the most thankless opportunity that could turn into a job you asked for but never wanted.

I thought I'd be good at it, cause I'm basically a systems analyst by trade. Married, 11 years, but we both didn't want children, yet we pay prop taxes, into this system, and that's fine, cause we have nieces and nephews and want to see their world as good as it can be. Yet if you don't HAVE children, you just are not part of the local society any more. You are Pariah, and un-trusted in society if you don't have kids on the most local of political levels. I still will vote for local school bonds and stuff. Even though, I now know, I can not have a direct influence. But one day, I can see that I will just say, the heck with it, and vote every thing down. And as our population gets older, with less children, I can understand it.

ljjhouser · Oct 13, 2021

JasperFrank said:
I thought I'd be good at it, cause I'm basically a systems analyst by trade. Married, 11 years, but we both didn't want children, yet we pay prop taxes, into this system, and that's fine, cause we have nieces and nephews and want to see their world as good as it can be. Yet if you don't HAVE children, you just are not part of the local society any more. You are Pariah, and un-trusted in society if you don't have kids on the most local of political levels. I still will vote for local school bonds and stuff. Even though, I now know, I can not have a direct influence. But one day, I can see that I will just say, the heck with it, and vote every thing down. And as our population gets older, with less children, I can understand it.

Sometimes I think parents (myself included) first see issues from the prospective of our son/daughter. And no further. That is not good. Most of us, as our children grow up, soon learn that we have NO idea what the kid is thinking or how to best represent him/her. Interesting. Best Wishes. Oh, by the way, thank you for serving and making the attempt to help. There are many of us who realize it is a devoted contribution to education and you deserve our thanks. (from an old teacher). Thank You

JasperFrank · Oct 13, 2021

ljjhouser said:
Sometimes I think parents (myself included) first see issues from the prospective of our son/daughter. And no further. That is not good. Most of us, as our children grow up, soon learn that we have NO idea what the kid is thinking or how to best represent him/her. Interesting. Best Wishes. Oh, by the way, thank you for serving and making the attempt to help. There are many of us who realize it is a devoted contribution to education and you deserve our thanks. (from an old teacher). Thank You

All I needed was that "Thank You." Thank You.. Next Bond Measure gets a "Yes."

Ken45101 · Oct 13, 2021

You folks will have so much fun, charging your battery powered generators when the power is out and you need them! Duh! What's in the water out there? On second thought, I really don't want to know!