Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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I confess that I don't signal before passing somebody for that reason. It gives them too much advance notice that it's time to step on the gas.
I speant 30 years on the road and it always amazed me that way too many people speed up as you try to pass.

Or, as they pass you, they get nose to nose and then stabalize their speed to stay right next to you.
 
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It is? Strange that I have been driving for decades and I have not had a problem seeing a turn signal next to a running light. Or headlight brightness for that matter..
I've only started noticing this in the past few years. I start complaining in my head about someone not using their turn signal, but as I get closer, there it is, blinking away under or next to their daytime running light. I think the issue is that if the turn signal is placed too near the the running light, and it's not brighter than the running light, that it's about impossible to see it flashing.

And I have exceptional vision. So it's not an eye issue.

Another issue is that since there's no standardization on car lighting brightness, well, pretty much all of the new cars have unique light placement, brightness, color (or temperature) of white, etc.
 
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Another issue is that since there's no standardization on car lighting brightness, well, pretty much all of the new cars have unique light placement, brightness, color (or temperature) of white, etc.
Actually there is a standard regulation but it is written in bureaucrat doublespeak. So unintelligible it is not being enforced. Hence the rampant LED, HID, and "super bright" retrofit market.

Is very easy to make a brighter headlight. Is very hard to keep said headlight out of the eyes of oncoming traffic.
 
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Actually there is a standard regulation but it is written in bureaucrat doublespeak. So unintelligible it is not being enforced. Hence the rampant LED, HID, and "super bright" retrofit market.

Is very easy to make a brighter headlight. Is very hard to keep said headlight out of the eyes of oncoming traffic.
It's not unintelligible for people that make lights for vehicles. It is profitable to make lights bright or pretty or what have you, so they just ignore the regulations and leave it up to the consumer to buy the correct ones.
 
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BYD Delivers First Electric Cars To Customers In Norway

BYD is really the competition to Tesla at this time. BYD started out as a battery maker. It is rumored that Tesla's going to start using their blade battery in cars built in China but it's just a rumor at this point. The 3000 pound towing capacity will be a hit in Norway.
Yes, the lack of any towing capacity has been a big problem for many potential EV buyers, small trailers is incredibly common here in Norway.
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I've only started noticing this in the past few years. I start complaining in my head about someone not using their turn signal, but as I get closer, there it is, blinking away under or next to their daytime running light. I think the issue is that if the turn signal is placed too near the the running light, and it's not brighter than the running light, that it's about impossible to see it flashing.
There is a distance requirement: From website above -
"Each DRL not optically combined with a turn signal lamp must be located on the vehicle so that the distance from its lighted edge to the optical center of the nearest turn signal lamp is not less than 100 mm..."
 
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"Each DRL not optically combined with a turn signal lamp must be located on the vehicle so that the distance from its lighted edge to the optical center of the nearest turn signal lamp is not less than 100 mm..."

That means the edge of the turn signal can't be less than about 4" from the center of the DRL. So the turn signal can actually be touching the DRL if the DRL is wide.
 
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Most of the newer vehicles have a drl that shuts down on the side that the turn signal is flashing. That's how our newest vehicle is.
 
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That's just common sense. If you turn on the turn signal too early, you lose the element of surprise! ;)
My attitude was always, "If people need to know which direction I'm driving, I'll let them know." If I'm in a left turn only lane, I'm going to turn left. Figure it out. Then I found out that not using my turn signals upset people, so now I leave them on all the time.
 
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My attitude was always, "If people need to know which direction I'm driving, I'll let them know." If I'm in a left turn only lane, I'm going to turn left. Figure it out. Then I found out that not using my turn signals upset people, so now I leave them on all the time.

Ah yes, the old decoy turn signal. Is that guy really trying to get into the left lane, or is the turn signal left over from when he merged onto the freeway ten miles ago?
 
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"Each DRL not optically combined with a turn signal lamp must be located on the vehicle so that the distance from its lighted edge to the optical center of the nearest turn signal lamp is not less than 100 mm..."

That means the edge of the turn signal can't be less than about 4" from the center of the DRL. So the turn signal can actually be touching the DRL if the DRL is wide.
You got one or the other inverted.

Center of the signal must be 100mm from edge of DRL. Doesn't matter how large the DRL, the signal must be separated.
 
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That goes both ways. It happens too often; somebody is just poking along and you need to be somewhere; so when a safe opportunity arises, pull out to pass. Except they decide to step on the gas; so you're beside them doing 70 and running out of space. Yet if you back off and pull in, they'll drop back down to 40.

My sister's ex BF kiiled an innocent motorist that way, and he lost both legs. Somebody tried to pass him so he sped up. Eventually they met an oncoming car. When the other guy pulled in he clipped Jeff's fender, who went spinning out of control into the other lane.

If somebody's trying to pass you, don't try to stop them. Just let them by, it's not the end of the world. You may even be right if you think they're driving too fast yet if you don't have blue lights, a badge, and a siren it isn't your place to slow them down. Besides, if they're going to crash wouldn't you prefer that it isn't when they're right beside you?
Yep. I always let people pass me if they want to. I expect the same courtesy from others, but, hey, you know how that goes. So if they don't let me in by speeding up, I back off and move back in behind them. Then they slow down again, I try to pass again, they do it again, I back off again. Third time, I pull behind them, back off and call the cops and give them a description of the car and license number. ;)
 
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