Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Fixastuff]

I automatically assume anyone speculating on USAs demise is a Russian plant spreading dissent.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

While helping people with COPD breath easier is important but even more important to me is doing things which may lower the risk of new COPD cases in 2070.

At the core I may be of a more independent mindset than most of 70+ age group when it comes to energy for my life needs and wants.

I do not have the money to dig a oil well and put in refinery even if I could get the permits to become energy independent.

However for the price of a top of the line gas Ford F-150 pickemup truck I can mine, store and distribution my own energy needs at no net NEW cost over time.

With some thought I can make it semi portable. Our son can help design and maintain our independent energy solution and make it his sooner or later.

We can try to stay energy dependent on others but the opportunity to become energy independent if we have our own place is becoming more realistic every year. We can start acting today or just be a spectator as history evolves.

 

[sd455dan]

Elon Musk is ok with new nuclear power plants as long as not built on the ocean beaches or fault lines.

On EV rebate reasoning (if there is any) it may be to try prevent the massive down sizing of Ford and GM by Chinese firms. BYD just picked up a Mercedes account selling them the EV Blade Battery technology. Toyota has decided to jump into the world of EVs by doing a joint venture with BYD for their skate board chassis loaded their EV Blade Battery technology.

BYD and Tesla are the only world class EV makers with BYD being more diverse.

I would also include SAIC in that
their affordable four-seat Hong Guang Mini electric outsells Tesla 2 to 1 in their home market.

Also still think the Marvel X (now Marvel R) Sold as an MG in other countries checks all of the boxes for a conventional style Electric SUV also fully 5G connectivity even a 300 person conference call from inside the car.
Alcontara and Napa leather 5 seater 69.9 KW battery augmented reality display and Navigation, 21 inch screen Intelligent all wheel drive will be the first with fast wireless vehicle charging. power Moon roof and Sunshade.
This is what the new Chevy Bolt could / should have been

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Reminder: GM Is Killing It In Low-Cost EVs

This may be the most popular EV in China that you mentioned.
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[Gale Hawkins]

1966 GM Electrovan Fuel Cell Vehicle Was Ahead Of Its Time

This talks about what the big three were going the '60s.

 

[Hay Dude]

”We can try to stay energy dependent on others but the opportunity to become energy independent if we have our own place is becoming more realistic every year. We can start acting today or just be a spectator as history evolves.”

So why don’t the people running the country sell all the polluting gas/diesel vehicles in their fleets and use our tax dollars to buy all electric vehicles? Not just a token few to make the average slob feel bad about himself. ALL of them. They could do a much better job of setting the example, yet even with trillions of dollars at their disposal, they do not seem to be doing so.

Electric vehicles in many cases, predate gas powered vehicles. They have been around forever. The prices of the materials and technology to build batteries versus the cheap abundance of oil and the power of the oil companies was probably the reason gas powered vehicles got the head start on electric.

 

[MossRoad]

It's already started...

U.S. Postal Service Awards Contract to Launch Multi-Billion-Dollar Modernization of Postal Delivery Vehicle Fleet - Newsroom - About.usps.com

about.usps.com

 

[Citydude]

Well, lets not get the cart before the horse. All these flowery reports of the EV saving the planet but not much on where the dead batteries end up.

Recycling of the batteries should be in the discussion. Any manufacturer of an EV should be responsible for the disposal or recycling of a hazardous material.

Once again, the downstream effect of a mass produced product has environmental consequences.

Electric cars: What will happen to all the dead batteries?

In the next 10 years millions of old electric car batteries will need to be recycled or discarded.

www.bbc.com

 

[cqaigy2]

That is what man has been doing from the beginning...How do people get so gullible and naive that they are overcome by the Henny Penny syndrome...?

That would actually be the Bury Your Head in The Sand syndrome....?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

It seems to be a hybrid. At 40 mpg it could be a commuter daily driver.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

”We can try to stay energy dependent on others but the opportunity to become energy independent if we have our own place is becoming more realistic every year. We can start acting today or just be a spectator as history evolves.”

So why don’t the people running the country sell all the polluting gas/diesel vehicles in their fleets and use our tax dollars to buy all electric vehicles? Not just a token few to make the average slob feel bad about himself. ALL of them. They could do a much better job of setting the example, yet even with trillions of dollars at their disposal, they do not seem to be doing so.

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Electric vehicles in many cases, predate gas powered vehicles. They have been around forever. The prices of the materials and technology to build batteries versus the cheap abundance of oil and the power of the oil companies was probably the reason gas powered vehicles got the head start on electric.

I teach my kids knowing the logic of politicians may be unknowable but pay attention to what may be rolling down hill in their direction so maybe they can side step what they want to miss.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

China seems be planning how to power EV charging stations and the EVs factories they building to supply world markets like the USA with quality and affordable EVs.

 

[buickanddeere]

EV sales are high in Norway because ICE vehicles are taxed at 130%. EV's are subsidized by the taxpayer and national sales of dirty crude oil.
Anyone who compares a 2021 EV tech to a 1920's ICE vehicle's tech . And expect similar improvements . They are either clueless, brainwashed, deluded or have an agenda .

 

[buickanddeere]

Battery prices will not drop as the demand for lithium increases.
How do EV enthusiasts feel about burning coal and natural gas to charge EV's ?

 

[MossRoad]

Battery prices will not drop as the demand for lithium increases.
How do EV enthusiasts feel about burning coal and natural gas to charge EV's ?

No one gives a poop if it helps their wallet. That is and always will be the driving force (that's a pun) in the majority of peoples' outlook; how will this help my bottom dollar.