UFO's... What do you think?

[/pine]

Government Finds No Evidence That Aerial Sightings Were Alien Spacecraft

U.S. Finds No Evidence of Alien Technology in Flying Objects, but Can’t Rule It Out, Either (Published 2021)

A new report concedes that much about the observed phenomena remains difficult to explain, including their acceleration, as well as ability to change direction and submerge.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Fuddy1952]

Government Finds No Evidence That Aerial Sightings Were Alien Spacecraft

U.S. Finds No Evidence of Alien Technology in Flying Objects, but Can’t Rule It Out, Either (Published 2021)

A new report concedes that much about the observed phenomena remains difficult to explain, including their acceleration, as well as ability to change direction and submerge.

www.nytimes.com

Doesn't surprise me. I'd be surprised if the government said they WERE alien spacecraft.

 

[CalG]

Time is merely the measure of motion.

No motion, no time. Check with any rock for confirmation.

Rocks that change with time,"move". Some don't last long.

Imagine being able to just "step across" to a different reality? No big to do, no high speed techno whizz-bangery. Just like being inside a bubble, and then stepping outside the bubble.

You know, God Himself was fashioned in man's image (imagination) It's only natural that UFO creations would also fall to those same human failings.

If you are in a box,....Step outside!

 

[/pine]

Time is merely the measure of motion.

No motion, no time. Check with any rock for confirmation.

Rocks that change with time,"move". Some don't last long.

Imagine being able to just "step across" to a different reality? No big to do, no high speed techno whizz-bangery. Just like being inside a bubble, and then stepping outside the bubble.

You know, God Himself was fashioned in man's image (imagination) It's only natural that UFO creations would also fall to those same human failings.

If you are in a box,....Step outside!

According to Einstein's theory...Time speeds up or slows down depending on how fast you move...!

BTW...the faster one moves the slower time elapses...(not the other way around)

 

[CalG]

That's a great theory for things that move.

Let's get back to those rocks. Think of the stories they could tell.

And on the other hand. Imagine... YOU have moved yourself to the most distant edge of this expanding galaxy (which way was that again?)
Now imagine you are back here again. Such a great distance, Rate and time meant nothing. But then, Are dreams real?

If you hit the ground in a dream of falling, do you REALY die? I can't imagine.....

 

[CalG]

You might consider....

Native North Americans (and perhaps other social groups) had a description of the Universe.

"It is an infinite sphere, with it's center EVERYWHERE!"

Same as today. Look around you to edges of the universe. It doesn't matter which way you look.... An infinite sphere.

One, In a multitude of realities.

 

[/pine]

That's a great theory for things that move.

Let's get back to those rocks. Think of the stories they could tell.

And on the other hand. Imagine... YOU have moved yourself to the most distant edge of this expanding galaxy (which way was that again?)
Now imagine you are back here again. Such a great distance, Rate and time meant nothing. But then, Are dreams real?

If you hit the ground in a dream of falling, do you REALY die? I can't imagine.....

What's not moving?...everything is moving...(about 1K mph)

 

[/pine]

The actual "edge" of the universe is really just the edge of our technological ability to see or detect anything beyond our current capabilities...

 

[the old grind]

I suggest that as we begin to understand that there are local 'distortions' of time from any assumed constant (gravity, velocity, black holes, whatever) all these moments are transitory, always in progression/history, and that there's no going back. As 'tempus fugit' could it be any more or less forward and never-ending than the expansion of the universe?

If it were ever to shrink/collapse I say it won't be a reversal of time too, or in reverse order of the past physical expansion. It may have begun long ago and we wouldn't know it was happening before we recognized our galaxy say on the way to merging with another or closing in on us. So far pretty much nothing we can observe beyond our own solar system will have actually happened in a human/your/my lifetime.

Life on Earth can be a metaphor for that you only get one shot and that's it. We see this in the flyspeck of our time vs the millions of years of our planet AKA 1/1000 the time since Big Bang. One limitation we'll always have when viewing stellar objects is that we will never see any of them in real time. If something is 100 light-years away we'll see what happened 100yrs ago. (radio transmission has the same real time delay)

Anyway, IMO you guys are great. Cogito ergo discite.

 

[CalG]

The actual "edge" of the universe is really just the edge of our technological ability to see or detect anything beyond our current capabilities...

The term is "Veiling glare".....

An electromagnetic curtain of uncertainty. All around us! And about the same distance, regardless of which way you might look.

 

[CalG]

Who knew these sorts of things had been considered?

UFO Part 1 of 16

vault.fbi.gov

Oooh! Spooky!

 

[CalG]

Some people think this way...


Within the weak-field approximation of general relativity, new exact solutions are derived for the gravitational field of a mass moving with arbitrary velocity and acceleration. A mass having a constant velocity greater than 3^-1/2 times the speed of light gravitationally repels other masses at rest within a narrow cone. At high Lorentz factors (gamma >> 1), the force of repulsion in the forward direction is about -8(gamma^5) times the Newtonian force, offering opportunities for laboratory tests of gravity at extreme velocities. One such experiment is outlined for the Large Hadron Collider.

Me? I don't think about these thing at all.

But

If you ask me what I think, I'll think of something... ;-)

 

[the old grind]

There's a lot more to think about than this weekend's weather or what the Kardashians (sp) are up to. It's that 'thinking OOB' that got us out of caves and into farming among other thing that 'mushrooms on Mars' aren't doing lately.

 

[RoyJackson]

According to Einstein's theory...Time speeds up or slows down depending on how fast you move...!

BTW...the faster one moves the slower time elapses...(not the other way around)

That's referred to as Time Dilation...
The typical example is, if you have a twin and one is launched on a spacecraft moving close to the speed of light (186000 miles per second), when the space traveler returns to Earth, his twin who had remained on Earth would be considerably older then the space traveler
Fantastic concept!

 

[2LaneCruzer]

There's a lot more to think about than this weekend's weather or what the Kardashians (sp) are up to. It's that 'thinking OOB' that got us out of caves and into farming among other thing that 'mushrooms on Mars' aren't doing lately.

Good observation...plus we have a body that possesses the dexterity to fashion tools and change our environment accordingly. I understand that a porpoise is extremely intelligent, but it cannot fashion a Swiss watch or build a medieval castle.

 

[k0ua]

I understand that a porpoise is extremely intelligent, but it cannot fashion a Swiss watch or build a medieval castle.

No, but they can eat fish like there is no tomorrow..

 

[2LaneCruzer]

No, but they can eat fish like there is no tomorrow..

I know somebody like that...just substitute "Pizza", "BBQ ribs" or "Chicken Fried Steak & Gravy" for "fish".

 

[rademamj1]

Though it may not be significant, Octopus species actually have been documented using tools to achieve their goals. They don't manufacture the tools, but have been observed making extreme efforts to choose the right tool.

Case study shows Octopus trying to open a bivalve clam shell, will often sort through several dozen rocks before selecting the particular rock with the best shape, for opening the shell. We humans are lucky, for if Octopus were 8 times larger, their brain capacity would be sufficient to challenge humanity as dominate species on earth.

 

[PILOON]

I suspect that UFO's do exist but not exactly as many believe..
Think DRONES.
Gyros were big heavy devices but today a tiny chip.
The common drone familiar to most is a 20 min battery powered device.
A modern large drone could have a super computer on board, a doz of gyros and turbine powered or even super battery driven.
Heck we have electric boats capable of pulling a water skier and a fast clip.
Technology has changed so rapidly that 99% of people are in the dark.
Yep, UFO's exist simply because we haven't found a better name for them.
Heck a space ship is actually a man made super UFO but we don't have funny people on board.
Call them an IFO, (identified flying object).

 

[MossRoad]

Gyros were big heavy devices

I'll say...