I got the Covid

[Larry Caldwell]

so, you've been spreading your germs /infections on people all these years. Now, somehow it's different, and you don't want to spread your germs /infections on others anymore ?
Just trying to figure out why all of a sudden, it now matters to you about spreading your germs/infections on others, when you've been doing it for years ?
Seems strange spreading your germs /infections to others, never mattered until now..

You have a funny definition of "never." When I was a kid, the county health officer could quarantine your household, and if you broke quarantine you got to finish it out in a jail cell. Those old public health laws are still on the books in most jurisdictions, even if they are not enforced.

Diseases used to kill people. Welcome to the Good Old Days.

 

[Jstpssng]

Eddie I hope you and your wife continue to recover.

The problem in my state is the fellow who signs the executive orders that we should wear masks keeps getting photoed in close contact with others at parties and such with no mask while demanding the general population wear masks. You cannot blame people when they question his orders.

I wear a mask when I go in a store and such but the second I知 outside it comes off. These masks have taught me a couple of things: I really like to breath and I hate trying to live life looking through foggy glasses.

I've come to the same conclusions as you state in your last line. I also find myself questioning whether I need to go into that store to begin with...

 

[Larry Caldwell]

When this whole thing started they said it was not necessary for the public to wear masks. Masks were only needed for medical staff back then. Now masks are stockpiled in warehouses and somebody has to pay for them, so everybody needs to wear masks. I would agree that everybody should wear masks when in close contact. Makes it suspicious though when the government changes the rules as they go along.

They wanted to reserve available gloves, gowns and masks for medical personnel, so they lied through their teeth. Everybody knew they were lying. If masks didn't do anything, why did doctors and nurses need them? There was quite a shortage for a while.

I ordered a year's supply of masks in early January. In March, they wanted me to donate them to the local hospital. Screw that. If I could see what was coming, the only reason they weren't prepped was incompetence. I had dental appointments and asked the techs what they had planned for the epidemic. All I got was blank looks.

 

[fried1765]

They wanted to reserve available gloves, gowns and masks for medical personnel, so they lied through their teeth. Everybody knew they were lying. If masks didn't do anything, why did doctors and nurses need them? There was quite a shortage for a while.

I ordered a year's supply of masks in early January. In March, they wanted me to donate them to the local hospital. Screw that. If I could see what was coming, the only reason they weren't prepped was incompetence. I had dental appointments and asked the techs what they had planned for the epidemic. All I got was blank looks.

From your post, I conclude that you may believe that your mask protects YOU?

 

[DK35vince]

They wanted to reserve available gloves, gowns and masks for medical personnel, so they lied through their teeth. Everybody knew they were lying.

And there lies some of the problem.
When lied to so often we tend to no longer believe a word that they say.

 

[tallyho8]

From your post, I conclude that you may believe that your mask protects YOU?

I conclude that my mask helps protect me. Any mask, although I wear a KN95. Just as a dust mask helps keeps you from breathing in as much dust while you are sanding, a mask reduces the number of droplets you may be inhaling if someone coughs or sneezes around you. Not 100%, but enough that the few that get through have a lower chance of infecting you.

The same principle as staying 6 feet away from someone is safer than being face to face with them. It is even safer to stay 10 feet away and safer at 100 feet. If you can not believe this simple fact I pity you.

 

[JethroB]

At times its embarrassing to be a member of our species.

 

[the old grind]

..When lied to so often we tend to no longer believe a word that they say.

We each have a 'they' or many that we listen to, and considerable freedom to choose among any and all. Then it's up to us to listen to several sides and make up out minds. Common sense is surely what most of us rely on.

It's kinda like that when seeking tractor advice, too.

Eddie, I hope the painful mess on your back eases up soon. Don't need that with all the rest.

 

[kenmac]

"I also find it odd that football players can line right up across from each other, breath, spit, or what ever on each other and no mask. But it's all ok because we love our football !"

No, It's all about those $$'s.
Team owners need the revenue.
No games, no ticket sales and no TV revenue.

just my point. With the general public. We should wear mask. When there is money involved, all the rules go away, and there is no worry about people catching covid

 

[kenmac]

You have a funny definition of "never." When I was a kid, the county health officer could quarantine your household, and if you broke quarantine you got to finish it out in a jail cell. Those old public health laws are still on the books in most jurisdictions, even if they are not enforced.

Diseases used to kill people. Welcome to the Good Old Days.

''never'' ???
I think it would be ok to fill the jails with people breaking a quarantine...
Just what the jails need filled up with harden criminals that have broken Quarantine .

Last I heard, they are letting criminals out of jails due to covid !
Now, that's a funny Definition of ''never'' LOL

After two test. I'm clear.. Now, I hear some that don't believe in a negative test. They only believe in the test if it comes back positive..
:laughing:
I will say, I'm now mask FREE ! No need to wear it since I'm no longer sick, I can't infect anyone...
And, since a mask won't protect me from getting covid again, no since wearing one now

Y'all stay safe out there:thumbsup:

Hang in there Eddie, I've had two test after having it for two weeks... I know you don't think so, but it'll get better for y'all...

 

[bindian]

Eddie,
How are the dogs liking their swimming pool?
hugs, Brandi

 

[ultrarunner]

Purely an observation from the trenches...

We typically have a percentage out sick at anytime and surgery cancelled due to patient being ill...

This year staff out sick has been a non-issue and almost the same for patients...

We also have not had a single problem with grafiti or vandalism inside the facility... zero.

The stepped up screening, testing, sanitizing, masks, distancing have to be a factor... in my opinion.

 

[Furu]

From your post, I conclude that you may believe that your mask protects YOU?

It all depends upon the mask that you are wearing as to the answer to that question.

Some masks barely if at all protect the wearer others protect the wearer quite a good bit. They of course cost a good bit more and they are not stitched together on the home sewing machine. The are also fit to your face and you test them each and every time you put them on to ensure they seal properly. I have used those type of masks in rather harsh and unhealthy environments. I have worn one of these masks in one instance since this Covid pandemic started when away from my work. I hope that I can avoid feeling as if I need to do so again but will if needed. I do not wear the cloth mask that 95 % of people wear. I wear and use properly fitted N-95 masks except for that one instance I mentioned above when I am out in public. They are far better than the cloth but the cloth are far better than nothing. Believe what you want but the technology does not lie.

If you have ever heard of or read about the "swiss cheese methodology" of accident analysis, masks wearing has a somewhat analogous connection. As an example. Washing hands does not do everything, social distancing does not do everything. Mask wearing does not 100% prevent an asymptomatic individual from passing the virus to others. Wearing a mask, even the most worthless kind gives you a small amount of protection (not much) and a good and properly fit mask and filters will provide nearly 100% protection. None of them by themselves will totally protect you from the virus. Even a full bio suit will not protect you if you break protocol. One break in the chain of protection can be the link that allows the bad event to happen.
No the public will never have the protection to fully ensure they are safe from the virus. Even our front line workers in the Covid wards at hospital don't have this gear (cost, etc)

Bottom line - protection is analogous to the layers of an onion. Layers of techniques to minimize your exposure is what you want. Why would you ignore one of those techniques? That might be the hole in the swiss cheese that allows the bad event to occur. Keeping those holes from ever lining up is the goal, whether it is in accident prevention or it in is virus infection prevention.

As was stated in a movie years back though: You can't fix stupid!

 

[KWentling]

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Today seems to be worse then the last couple of days. Might be that I didn't sleep very well last night. My back has broken out in hives and it's very itchy. Another Covid issue that came out of nowhere, for nor apparent reason, just to annoy me. Legs are totally worn out today, and all I've done is walk across my house a few times. Probably the most common issue that comes and goes is how my head feels all fuzzy and off. I'm not dizzy, or light headed, but it's almost like the air is different around my skull and it weighs more then normal air.




The wife and I had Covid back at the end of Sept. She got to spend 6 days in the Hospital with pneumonia. I didn't have it as bad and was home all through it. I too had that burning skin symptom I believe you described earlier. I had a bout with shingles 5 years ago and this resembled that feeling enough that I hit the Valtrex as a preventive measure. It went away after a day or two. If that rash is only on one side of your back you might want to look into the possibility of shingles. It is usually only on one side, but not always. You want to treat shingles early and aggressively. NOT pleasant..

Have you checked your blood oxygen level? Dizzy light headed feelings may be an indication of low oxygen levels. That was the wife's first big problem.

As a side note. I am just now starting to get my sense of smell back a little. Been 3 months now.

 

[ededic]

Aerosol transmission of Covid-19: A room, a bar and a classroom: how the coronavirus is spread through the air | Society | EL PAIS in English

The is a large white space after the first couple of scrolls, keep going.

 

[fried1765]

I conclude that my mask helps protect me. Any mask, although I wear a KN95. Just as a dust mask helps keeps you from breathing in as much dust while you are sanding, a mask reduces the number of droplets you may be inhaling if someone coughs or sneezes around you. Not 100%, but enough that the few that get through have a lower chance of infecting you.

The same principle as staying 6 feet away from someone is safer than being face to face with them. It is even safer to stay 10 feet away and safer at 100 feet. If you can not believe this simple fact I pity you.

Facts show that for this type of disease, a mask offers YOU little or no protection.
The reason YOU might wear a mask, is perhaps to protect OTHERS from YOU.
The face mask mental trap though, is that YOU are supposed to feel as though YOU are protecting yourself.
It is simply an, I am protecting myself..... it makes me feel safe, mental/visual trap!

Cloth, or paper masks, are good to protect against significantly larger dust particles though.

 

[goeduck]

Aerosol transmission of Covid-19: A room, a bar and a classroom: how the coronavirus is spread through the air | Society | EL PAIS in English

The is a large white space after the first couple of scrolls, keep going.

That is a very well done document.

 

[goeduck]

Face shields I am seeing do little to no good and should not be allowed to substitute as a mask unless there are extenuating circumstances.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

It all depends upon the mask that you are wearing as to the answer to that question.

Some masks barely if at all protect the wearer others protect the wearer quite a good bit. They of course cost a good bit more and they are not stitched together on the home sewing machine. The are also fit to your face and you test them each and every time you put them on to ensure they seal properly. I have used those type of masks in rather harsh and unhealthy environments. I have worn one of these masks in one instance since this Covid pandemic started when away from my work. I hope that I can avoid feeling as if I need to do so again but will if needed. I do not wear the cloth mask that 95 % of people wear. I wear and use properly fitted N-95 masks except for that one instance I mentioned above when I am out in public. They are far better than the cloth but the cloth are far better than nothing. Believe what you want but the technology does not lie.

If you have ever heard of or read about the "swiss cheese methodology" of accident analysis, masks wearing has a somewhat analogous connection. As an example. Washing hands does not do everything, social distancing does not do everything. Mask wearing does not 100% prevent an asymptomatic individual from passing the virus to others. Wearing a mask, even the most worthless kind gives you a small amount of protection (not much) and a good and properly fit mask and filters will provide nearly 100% protection. None of them by themselves will totally protect you from the virus. Even a full bio suit will not protect you if you break protocol. One break in the chain of protection can be the link that allows the bad event to happen.
No the public will never have the protection to fully ensure they are safe from the virus. Even our front line workers in the Covid wards at hospital don't have this gear (cost, etc)

Bottom line - protection is analogous to the layers of an onion. Layers of techniques to minimize your exposure is what you want. Why would you ignore one of those techniques? That might be the hole in the swiss cheese that allows the bad event to occur. Keeping those holes from ever lining up is the goal, whether it is in accident prevention or it in is virus infection prevention.

As was stated in a movie years back though: You can't fix stupid!

Yes, a HEPA (AKA n99) fitted respirator is a fine piece of equipment. Mine even has a foam filter on the exhale valve, so it doesn't spread droplets into the environment. The currently popular sandwich style n95 masks are pretty good too.

I once worked on the research side of a medical school. There were some interesting safety rules:

- Wash your hands before and after using the toilet.

- If there is a power outage and you see researchers running for the exit, you should run too.

 

[fried1765]

Yes, a HEPA (AKA n99) fitted respirator is a fine piece of equipment. Mine even has a foam filter on the exhale valve, so it doesn't spread droplets into the environment. The currently popular sandwich style n95 masks are pretty good too.

I once worked on the research side of a medical school. There were some interesting safety rules:

- Wash your hands before and after using the toilet.

- If there is a power outage and you see researchers running for the exit, you should run too.

"Wash your hands before and after using the toilet"

I have heard that SOME restaurant workers do the "after" part, SOMETIMES, also!