Starlink

[dmccarty]

Just noticed this posted this morning:

Link

That is very interesting. Seems like they will be profitable in a few years, and a 60% profit margin is huge. Gives them lots of room to lower prices if needed and/or continue to invest in the network. Having access to Canada in a few months is also interesting. I am hoping that means they have enough satellites and ground stations to start providing services to more house holds.

Later,
Dan

 

[John_Mc]

I can't find much of anything at that Starlink site. When I fill out the info to see if it's available in my area, all I get back is a notice that I'm signed up for updates. I did that more than two weeks ago, and have never heard a peep from them.

 

[Citydude]

Anyone remember Skynet?

 

[cqaigy2]

I can't find much of anything at that Starlink site. When I fill out the info to see if it's available in my area, all I get back is a notice that I'm signed up for updates. I did that more than two weeks ago, and have never heard a peep from them.

Yup. We'll get back to you if you are selected.

 

[riptides]

That is very interesting. Seems like they will be profitable in a few years, and a 60% profit margin is huge. Gives them lots of room to lower prices if needed and/or continue to invest in the network. Having access to Canada in a few months is also interesting. I am hoping that means they have enough satellites and ground stations to start providing services to more house holds.

Later,
Dan

Ground station? LOL. You the customer ARE the ground station.

 

[Frankenkubota]

Ground station? LOL. You the customer ARE the ground station.

heee heeee

That's what I thought, bite my tongue! I sold black boxes used in defense comm earth stations and they were usually a bit more than $500 but in all honesty, more often than not, it was a beta test, only the customer didn't really know.

I know what it does but really, not how. Like gravity, this stuff is magic to me.

 

[Diggin It]

Umm, no. The ground station(s) in my understanding are the facilities that convert from the satellite distribution system to the internet grid of the Tier 1 providers: Tier 1 network - Wikipedia

 

[lman]

I can't find much of anything at that Starlink site. When I fill out the info to see if it's available in my area, all I get back is a notice that I'm signed up for updates. I did that more than two weeks ago, and have never heard a peep from them.

There's more info here.
Starlink - SpaceX Satellite Internet Constellation

 

[Frankenkubota]

Umm, no. The ground station(s) in my understanding are the facilities that convert from the satellite distribution system to the internet grid of the Tier 1 providers: Tier 1 network - Wikipedia

I am not trying to be a jerk, i really don't have to try very hard but.......

Why do you need an antenna on your roof if the signal is delivered via internet from ground station distribution points? in my case dsl down 2600 ft, amazing to me it even works!

 

[riptides]

Umm, no. The ground station(s) in my understanding are the facilities that convert from the satellite distribution system to the internet grid of the Tier 1 providers: Tier 1 network - Wikipedia

Maybe like 20 years ago. Satellites of today, talk to other satellites. There are a few control stations here and there, but communications these days go mostly directly to the operators and customers (civy of course).

Makes travel to Oz and Bermuda less likely for some - for maintenance, if you know what I mean. LOL.

 

[Diggin It]

I am not trying to be a jerk, i really don't have to try very hard but.......

Why do you need an antenna on your roof if the signal is delivered via internet from ground station distribution points? in my case dsl down 2600 ft, amazing to me it even works!

Service has to get from the ground (network centers), up to the satellites and back down to the ground (users).

 

[Diggin It]

Maybe like 20 years ago. Satellites of today, talk to other satellites. There are a few control stations here and there, ...

And those control stations are on the ground, along with all of the server farms that hold and distribute the data and information. Information is relayed between satellites, but doesn't originate or reside on them.

 

[riptides]

And those control stations are on the ground, along with all of the server farms that hold and distribute the data and information. Information is relayed between satellites, but doesn't originate or reside on them.

I repeat what I said earlier, with StarLink you the consumer are the GROUND Station. Are you seeing the difference?

 

[Diggin It]

Unless the device in your house is handling and processing the data from millions of other users worldwide, YOU are the end user, nothing more.

 

[riptides]

Unless the device in your house is handling and processing the data from millions of other users worldwide, YOU are the end user, nothing more.

SpaceX Get Approval for 1 Million Starlink Ground Stations in USA – Parabolic Arc

 

[lman]

Each ground station is and will be at the end user's residence. Please read the contents of the link that I previously posted.
Starlink - SpaceX Satellite Internet Constellation

 

[Diggin It]

Ford calls my car a Taurus. That doesn't mean it's a bull.

They can call it a Lunar Landing Module or a Mars Rover for all I care, but in the end, the device is a modem, an end user interface.

 

[/pine]

It seems like some do not actually know how the Internet actually works...when a hyperlink or bookmark etc, is clicked the users computer sends a request to a server for whatever file/document etc...and it is returned to the specific user that sent the request...

For a satellite Internet connection to work the request must get to the satellite (this requires a transmitter powerful enough to reach said satellite)...the satellite then forwards the request to the proper server (ground based) retrieves said file/document then forwards it back to the original user that requested the file/doc...

In the early days of satellite Internet connections...end user hardware did not have the capability to transmit requests they had to use an analog (telephone) line connection to a central ground based station with a powerful enough transmitter...said requests were then sent (via satellite) back to the end user...

 

[lman]

Some of the Starlink pings/latency is better than what I have with my dsl.

 

[/pine]

Some of the Starlink pings/latency is better than what I have with my dsl.

Latency issues and ping times etc. are not just ISP problematic...lots of other factors contribute to those issues...they (ISP times are generally constant where other delay sources are conditional)...