Building Lake Corona

   / Building Lake Corona #641  
Another plus for your overflow design choice.

Any time you have a structure through a dam below water level you compromise the integrity of the dam. This design totally eliminates those kind of problems. Now there is no place for water to seep and potentially wash out the pipe.

There are literally hundreds of structures here in my County with straight thru overflow pipes. I haven't heard of or saw any that required repair.

Once I saw one that got plugged at the upper end during a torrential rain. Took several days for the structure to finally lower back to static level. I heard it had a large turtle wedged in the opening.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #642  
The 2 big advantages to this type of overflow system are that you are not running a pipe through the dam. It is almost impossible to stop water from eventually leaking along the path of that pipe. With the entry into the pipe at the bottom of the pond, it will pull silt with it, and in theory, keep the depth of the pond, or at least the area around the pipe, at the same depth.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #643  
I'm not sure if they are a problem there but where we live every time you bury a pipe the gophers will soon tunnel right beside it and cause problems.
 
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#644  
So to drain the pond you close the vent and wait for a rise in pond level to create a siphoning effect.

You can drain the pond at anytime by simply capping the outlet and filling the pipe with water at the T. Close a shutoff valve at the vent elbo so you can create the airlock and open the outlet to start the siphon. No need to wait for rain.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #645  
There are literally hundreds of structures here in my County with straight thru overflow pipes. I haven't heard of or saw any that required repair.

Once I saw one that got plugged at the upper end during a torrential rain. Took several days for the structure to finally lower back to static level. I heard it had a large turtle wedged in the opening.

We have lots of structures too but with a six foot frost line every year there are issues. I used to work for an irrigation district. It was not uncommon to have 5-10 washouts a year from frost. Most irrigation dams in this area have lowered water levels for the winter. It takes the strain off of the structures.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #646  
You can drain the pond at anytime by simply capping the outlet and filling the pipe with water at the T. Close a shutoff valve at the vent elbo so you can create the airlock and open the outlet to start the siphon. No need to wait for rain.

Oh, of course Jeremy. I'm kinda slow sometimes!!!! I get that now. Sorry for the confusion. Duh.....
 
   / Building Lake Corona #647  
I'm not sure if they are a problem there but where we live every time you bury a pipe the gophers will soon tunnel right beside it and cause problems.

If the structures here are government subsidized thru Soil Conservation Department they require a "seep collar" on the pipe. It's a 3ft square piece of sheet steel with the pipe going thru the center. Located10-15ft from the upper end. Stops varmits from burrowing along the pipe and causing a leak.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #648  
The 2 big advantages to this type of overflow system are that you are not running a pipe through the dam. It is almost impossible to stop water from eventually leaking along the path of that pipe. With the entry into the pipe at the bottom of the pond, it will pull silt with it, and in theory, keep the depth of the pond, or at least the area around the pipe, at the same depth.

I don't think I can agree with the silt theory. I think what you'll eventually have is a plugged pipe. Especially in a condition like Jeremy's where his lake is surrounded by trees which will dump truck loads of leaves in the lake each Fall. They sink and settle on the bottom.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #649  
I don't think I can agree with the silt theory. I think what you'll eventually have is a plugged pipe. Especially in a condition like Jeremy's where his lake is surrounded by trees which will dump truck loads of leaves in the lake each Fall. They sink and settle on the bottom.

On our pond the siphon intake in the pond has a elbow the runs the drain back up with perforated pipe to keep it from silting in and getting plugged rather than being horizontal.

We also have a seperate drain pipe with a valve that can be opened to drain the pond with the same type elbow and perforated pipe.

The pond is one acre and the drain pipe and siphon are 6" PVC pipes.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #650  
On our pond the siphon intake in the pond has a elbow the runs the drain back up with perforated pipe to keep it from silting in and plugged rather than being horizontal.

Similar to a riser in a terrace. Good idea. As the bottom plugs it will simply draw water from a higher location.
 
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#651  
I don't think I can agree with the silt theory. I think what you'll eventually have is a plugged pipe. Especially in a condition like Jeremy's where his lake is surrounded by trees which will dump truck loads of leaves in the lake each Fall. They sink and settle on the bottom.

Inlet location will be about 3 ft from the bottom.
 
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#653  
This project continues to linger on but is still alive..
Back side of the dam is finished. The pond is pretty much finished as well. Hoping to install the pipe on the water side of the dam this week and still have a lot of dirt to move to the water side of the dam. Right now the slope is too steep and would worry about erosion if left as is.

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   / Building Lake Corona #654  
I still think this is an awesome project. I wish I had the real estate for a pond like this... but then again, I'm kind of glad I don't. Not sure I would ever git er done. Keep it going! :D :thumbsup:
 
   / Building Lake Corona
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#656  
Lots of good 'habitat' there for the fishes!

I have some large limestone that I'll place in a couple of spots for some additional habitat. Also need to pick a few areas and make some cuts into the hillside for some shallow areas for plant growth. Banks are so steep that there will be little at the moment relative to surface area.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #657  
That's going to be a really nice looking pond. I piled my stumps up into a couple different areas to give the fingerlings the most protection possible. It's also a good area to fish because the bass like to hang out around those piles.
 
   / Building Lake Corona #658  
I have some large limestone that I'll place in a couple of spots for some additional habitat. Also need to pick a few areas and make some cuts into the hillside for some shallow areas for plant growth. Banks are so steep that there will be little at the moment relative to surface area.

Great Idea! That's going to be a good fishing lake!
 
   / Building Lake Corona #659  
I would be inclined to tie a little buoy on the stumps so I would avoid snagging my lures. :D
 

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