Kubota 7060 question

[J C green]

Hey, Im looking at the M7060 and need a little help understanding the difference in the 8x8 transmission and the 12x12.

Before any of you jokers tell me there is 4 more gears, I got that part! :laughing:

Im looking for info on what the differences are on the parts, pumps, gears, hydraulics, pros or cons. More specifics about the trans upgrade, and if it is better.

I have 12 gears and shuttle shift now, and thinking I wont want to give the different gear options up, but I dont know the details or pros & cons.

Also what do you think the price increase would be for the 12x12?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

JC

Also any info on current pricing as it regards to COVID & inventory would be nice too - IE are any dealers bumping prices up??

 

[RoyKing]

mine is a 2019, now new models have come out. The 12 has 20gpm pump, the 8 has 16gpm pump, I got the creep set also and it is handy
when doing hookups, or moving loads with precision, like placing a one ton generator on its mount, or slight incline placements. All info on website and download pdf pamphlets

 

[jeff9366]

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You can accurately price transmissions via BUILD YOUR KUBOTA.

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[J C green]

I am in East central AL.

From the build & price page of kubota website it seems about a $4k increase. Does that sound about right??

Thanks

 

[SDT]

Hey, Im looking at the M7060 and need a little help understanding the difference in the 8x8 transmission and the 12x12.

Before any of you jokers tell me there is 4 more gears, I got that part! :laughing:

Im looking for info on what the differences are on the parts, pumps, gears, hydraulics, pros or cons. More specifics about the trans upgrade, and if it is better.

I have 12 gears and shuttle shift now, and thinking I wont want to give the different gear options up, but I dont know the details or pros & cons.

Also what do you think the price increase would be for the 12x12?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

JC

Also any info on current pricing as it regards to COVID & inventory would be nice too - IE are any dealers bumping prices up??

The 8 speed is a dual range (not synchronized) with a 4 speed synchronized main transmission.

The 12 speed is a dual range (non synchronized) with a 6 speed synchronized main transmission.

I replaced a MF with similar 8 speed with my M9960 with 12 speed, resulting in less need to stop to change ranges.

Not sure about bumping prices in my area but few (any?) are dealing much from MSRP. Not a good time to buy.

SDT

 

[RoyKing]

Warning look under one, the FEL VALVES and fuel tank are easily damaged by sticks in heavy brush. A stick tore the wiring off my third function solenoid valve, $2200.00 buy KTAC my cost $250.00

 

[J C green]

Warning look under one, the FEL VALVES and fuel tank are easily damaged by sticks in heavy brush. A stick tore the wiring off my third function solenoid valve, $2200.00 buy KTAC my cost $250.00

I have been wondering how vulnerable the fuel tank is. ?

I do tend to operate in Rough conditions.

 

[RoyKing]

Nobody sells protection you have to come up with your own, about $800 for a new tank

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...60-skid-plate-build.html?highlight=skid+plate

 

[Gomer pyle]

Mine is a '17. At that time 12x12 gained about 4 gpm on overall hydraulic flow, electronic 4x4, E-pto(540 pto speed at 1600 rpms instead of 2250), park gear instead of a parking brake, and I believe there was one more thing that I can't remember now.
I don't know that I gained anything. E-pto is useless because you need high rpms for DPF. Electronic 4x4 over manual, I don't see any plus or minus really. I never use 5 or 6 for field work and can use high side for traveling. GPM might be the only gain but I don't know if I would notice it, if I compared it to standard
Good luck with your decision, I had to order mine because I got an open station and they are normally 8x8

 

[RoyKing]

I used the zero down zero financing and KTAC, ordered everything I wanted, probably didn't need that third rear float valve, love the air ride, one mistake took the default bucket on the FEL and it was narrower than the R1 radials, so the dealer let me swap to the wider bucket for the difference in retail price. Ktac is wonderful already used it. Also when negotiating price the last thing make them throw in a manuals and all maintenance supplies out to and include 1000hrs. It will save you big time.

 

[J C green]

Mine is a '17. At that time 12x12 gained about 4 gpm on overall hydraulic flow, electronic 4x4, E-pto(540 pto speed at 1600 rpms instead of 2250), park gear instead of a parking brake, and I believe there was one more thing that I can't remember now.
I don't know that I gained anything. E-pto is useless because you need high rpms for DPF. Electronic 4x4 over manual, I don't see any plus or minus really. I never use 5 or 6 for field work and can use high side for traveling. GPM might be the only gain but I don't know if I would notice it, if I compared it to standard
Good luck with your decision, I had to order mine because I got an open station and they are normally 8x8

So, in your experience, you dont see the benefit in the 12x12? If you were buying again, would you get the 8x8?
Thanks

 

[deserteagle71]

E-pto is useless because you need high rpms for DPF.

???

I have 420+ hours on my M7060 12 speed now, almost all of it using the PTO. I have NEVER used anything but E-PTO; the regens on mine are few and far between so I'm sure the DPF is doing fine. Seems to me that as long as the tractor is not just running at idle, with no load so it doesn't have a chance to get up to operating temperature, the emissions system will be fine.

Come to think of it, don't believe I have ever run my engine over 2000 rpm since it was new for any reason.

 

[ptsg]

???

I have 420+ hours on my M7060 12 speed now, almost all of it using the PTO. I have NEVER used anything but E-PTO; the regens on mine are few and far between so I'm sure the DPF is doing fine. Seems to me that as long as the tractor is not just running at idle, with no load so it doesn't have a chance to get up to operating temperature, the emissions system will be fine.

Come to think of it, don't believe I have ever run my engine over 2000 rpm since it was new for any reason.

Exactly. DPFs actually like a steady load more than uneven loads.

There is a thread here on TBN, where a member decided to run his square baler on a L6060, instead of the the bigger Kubota he has for whatever reason I can't remember now, but he experienced more regens on the L6060 because as the baler was stroking, it would load up the engine, then almost unload it at all. This would produce enough soot to plug the DPF faster without having time to burn off between strokes and caused the DPF to regen much more frequently than the bigger tractor.

 

[J C green]

So, is the 12x12 transmission an upgrade from the 8x8?

Is the 12x12 a wet clutch and 8x8 a dry clutch?

I am looking at specs online, but one of us is not extremely clear.

Thanks!

 

[deserteagle71]

So, is the 12x12 transmission an upgrade from the 8x8?

Is the 12x12 a wet clutch and 8x8 a dry clutch?

I am looking at specs online, but one of us is not extremely clear.

Thanks!

The 12x12 is an upgrade (option). But both are "multiple wet disc" clutches according to the Kubota brochure.

I bought mine used; if I had ordered a new one, knowing what I know now, I would have ordered mine with the "creeper" gears option. 3rd gear on my old John Deere 2020 is about equivalent to 1st gear on this Kubota. I would have liked some lower gears for those times when I'm trying to finesse around in a tight situation.

 

[RoyKing]

https://www.kubotausa.com/docs/default-source/brochure-sheets/m60brochure.pdf?sfvrsn=b28b19f6_2
https://www.kubotausa.com/docs/default-source/spec-sheets/m60series_spec.pdf?sfvrsn=4f8ae861_5
Here is everything you need

 

[sixdogs]

The 12x12 is an upgrade (option). But both are "multiple wet disc" clutches according to the Kubota brochure.

I bought mine used; if I had ordered a new one, knowing what I know now, I would have ordered mine with the "creeper" gears option. 3rd gear on my old John Deere 2020 is about equivalent to 1st gear on this Kubota. I would have liked some lower gears for those times when I'm trying to finesse around in a tight situation.

Isn't the creeper gear a simple dealer add-on. and not a factory item?

 

[RoyKing]

The dealer installs it, a messy job, but order it, if you do it later you may have an install fee. Kubota pays the dealer to install lots of stuff. My dealer did the grill guard, 3rd function on the FEL and the creep gear. factory did my rear valves.

 

[J C green]

Guys, thank you all for the insight. I have reviewed all of the literature on line, the paper brochures, and all of the videos on the web.

Not being a tractor expert, nor having done any research in @ 10 years, your opinions and real life experiences are appreciated.

If you have any additional info- please share it. I'm still pondering on this, before I pull the trigger.

Thanks again,
JC

 

[SDT]

???

I have 420+ hours on my M7060 12 speed now, almost all of it using the PTO. I have NEVER used anything but E-PTO; the regens on mine are few and far between so I'm sure the DPF is doing fine. Seems to me that as long as the tractor is not just running at idle, with no load so it doesn't have a chance to get up to operating temperature, the emissions system will be fine.

Come to think of it, don't believe I have ever run my engine over 2000 rpm since it was new for any reason.

Agreed.

I use EPTO on my M9960 when using the mounted mower (not with the BW). Never any DPF issues.

SDT