Grillo G110 lift kit

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Sevanje

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Grillo G110 gx390, Same Delfino 35, Belarus 09h, Motorsich MB9DE
Ever since I got my g110 ground clearance was a big issue. And something had to be done especially when cultivating already growing plants. So this monstrosity :confused3: was conceived with 4.5-19" wheels 130 mm spacers and 16kg stainless steel weights per wheel. Now it has 280 mm ground clearance. Yes it is 40% faster and all jumpy if you are not careful with the clutch, but it was worth all the work put in to it. But now that gearbox looks really small and fragile with those big wheels on, I wonder how long it will hold together.

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Any thoughts? You guys are usually full of ideas.
 
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Very impressive setup! :thumbsup:
Trying to understand why ground clearance was an issue, are you tilling over the top of growing plants?
Not familiar with Grillo but they seem to be similar to BCS - built like a tank!

Enjoy :drink:
 
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That's pretty crazy looking. All of that stainless and/or aluminum gives it a unique look too. And those tall narrow wheels! Maybe you could make them dually and eliminate the weights and get more traction too!
 
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Well thank you. For tilling 5-12 wheels are still best but for cultivating and weed control I use my 2 wheel tractor like a regular 4 wheel one, like in this picture cultivating potatoes:
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Similar setup is used for corn when it is still small and beans so I don't have to use chemical stuff to kill weeds.

I never thought about another set of wheels, that is a good idea, but I don't know how much stress can the aluminum housing take, I have never seen those tractors been used this way.
 
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Well thank you. For tilling 5-12 wheels are still best but for cultivating and weed control I use my 2 wheel tractor like a regular 4 wheel one, like in this picture cultivating potatoes. Similar setup is used for corn when it is still small and beans so I don't have to use chemical stuff to kill weeds.

Ah, now I get it, thanks for that.
We use corrugated cardboard between rows of corn and garlic. No weeds, worms love it and adds carbon to the soil when it is tilled in :thumbsup:

:drink:
 
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Ah, now I get it, thanks for that.
We use corrugated cardboard between rows of corn and garlic. No weeds, worms love it and adds carbon to the soil when it is tilled in

Hmm that sounds really interesting never heard of that. Do you use regular cardboard like in a roll or can it be bought for that purpose?
Though we have strong winds where I live, how problematic would that be?
 
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Do you have the Bora to contend with? If you do you can put a few bricks on the cardboard or/and also some stakes to hold it down.
 
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Do you have the Bora to contend with? If you do you can put a few bricks on the cardboard or/and also some stakes to hold it down.

Indeed, it is quite troublesome at times with its 180 km/h winds. Now I am intrigued how do you know about bora?
 
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Indeed, it is quite troublesome at times with its 180 km/h winds. Now I am intrigued how do you know about bora?

I went to school in Triest and it blows there like a banshee. Whereabouts are you in Slovenia? I Went to Lipica many many years ago.
 
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Hmm that sounds really interesting never heard of that. Do you use regular cardboard like in a roll or can it be bought for that purpose?
Though we have strong winds where I live, how problematic would that be?

Just large regular cardboard boxes sliced up. We use landscape cloth pins to hold it down but once it gets wet and 'wormy' it stays put.
We are in a steep sided valley, so we lose the sun early, the cardboard seems to help keep the ground warm. :confused3:
 
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Hi Sevanje :)

Congratulations on your new Grillo G110, and welcome to the 2-wheel tractors forum ;)

As I read your posts and saw your pictures, I felt confident that you are on a perfect track to get the most out of your new tractor. You have mounted larger wheels, increased the track width, and finally you have added wheel weights. These are all changes that will increase stability and tractive efficiency, and changes that are especially important when you are using your tractor for pulling.

As you perhaps are aware, using a tractor for pulling is the least efficient (but most used) way to utilise a tractor, as often only around 50-75 % of the engine power is transferred into pulling power when working in the field - and even less, if the tractor is not correctly ballasted. The most efficient power transfer is via the PTO, where you can expect around 95 % of the engine power to be available. - This of course doesn't help you much, if you want to use your tractor for pulling a cultivator, I know :rolleyes:

I don't think that you have to worry to much about your gearbox not being up to the job - even with 130 mm spacers, the big diameter wheels and the wheel weights. These tractors are well build, and many of them will probably outlive most of us :rolleyes:

If you take a look at this page from Earth Tools, you will see that Joel mentions the limit for wheel extensions to be 10'' on either side, as this is the maximum recommended by the tractor manufacturers:

Wheel Accessories - Earth Tools

With your 130 mm, you are only about halfway towards that limit, so no problem :thumbsup:

It is perhaps also useful to remember, that your wheel weights decreases the bending moment on your gearbox, as they sit on the outside of the wheels. On top of that, you seem to use your tractor with relative light implements, and they don't add much weight - and bending moment - to the tractor. If on the other hand, you would for instance connect a 85 cm Berta flail mower weighing 92 kg to your tractor like I do, you would basically add this weight to your tractor, when you press down on the handlebars to lift the mower off the ground. That puts a lot of stress on the axles and the gearbox, but again part of it is alleviated by the wheel weights. The wheel weights doesn't help when the tractor is used to pull or push hard though, and therefore the note written in bold letters in the above link is worth noticing! Maximum 8'' extensions when using such implements :thumbsup:

Looking at your picture where you are cultivating your potatoes, you don't seem to have any problems with flotation or compaction at all. Therefore you won't get better traction by adding duals to your tractor - except the extra traction due to the added weight, of course. For your kind of job, narrow tall wheels gives you a nimble tool that is ideal for hoeing potatoes and the like. Large diameter wheels have the added advantage, that they increase the length of the contact patch, giving you better traction than a smaller but wider tire would.

Adding weight to a tractor, is in most conditions a very efficient method of improving tractive performance - especially on loamy and sandy soils, like the ones you seem to have. One might sometimes wonder just how much wheel weight to add them? The rule of thumb is quiet simple and straight forward: As little as possible, but enough to reduce slip to a reasonable level.

What a reasonable level is, depends mostly on the type of soil that one is working on, but in most situations, a slip above around 20 % is not desirable. 12-15 % is in many situations an optimum value. Sadly, we don't have a gauge on our small tractors, that will show us what our slip percentage is. Looking at the ruts created by the tires, might give us a hint though. If the tread pattern left by the tire is fully "intact" showing no signs of slip at all, the tractor might be over ballasted, and might waste power and fuel, dragging unnecessary "dead weight" along. If on the other hand, the slip is clearly visible, and the tread pattern is "torn apart" in the rut, power that could have been used for traction, is lost as well. In this case, weights should be added, until the slip is hardly visible again.

All the best with your new tractor ;)


Best regards

Jens
 
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I went to school in Triest and it blows there like a banshee. Whereabouts are you in Slovenia? I Went to Lipica many many years ago.

Hello again!
I actually live 30 km from Trieste in Vipava valley. Such a small world.
 
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Hi Sevanje :)

Congratulations on your new Grillo G110, and welcome to the 2-wheel tractors forum ;)

As I read your posts ...

Jens

That is quite a lot of useful information you gave.
Now you put me at ease, if it can hold 95kg it will hold my implements too.
Though it is worth mentioning I am using 19" wheels only half the time the other half I use 10" wheels without spacers.
 
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Hello again!
I actually live 30 km from Trieste in Vipava valley. Such a small world.

What a beautiful, place it is, I love Slovenia with all of its traditions. I can see why the Bora would be a problem for you.
Just out of curiosity how good a reputation does S.I.P. industries enjoys locally, I like their implements, but we know so little about them.
 
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What a beautiful, place it is, I love Slovenia with all of its traditions. I can see why the Bora would be a problem for you.
Just out of curiosity how good a reputation does S.I.P. industries enjoys locally, I like their implements, but we know so little about them.

I can't help you much with S.I.P.. Those implements are used in pair with competition, not much problems with them.
The other thing is that spare parts are reasonably priced and readily available.
Which is worth a bag of gold when something brakes in the middle of the field and you need it in working condition as soon as possible.
 
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That's what I'd have thought too, they seem to be copies of Pottinger, but unfortunately here the dealers network isn't great and here in Canada they have the wrong distributor, tried to have a look at some implements called the distributor, but they couldn't care less! The same distributor also represents Maschio-Gaspardo another great manufacturer especially for the farms not made up of 1000s of acres, but never hear a whisper in the hands of MTI the distributor.
 

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